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  • PRIMER: What's needed to record a golf swing?

    Every few months there's a new thread asking what hardware and software is available to record our golf swings. The usual suspects get discussed from cheap to expensive with no clear winners. It's a sad lot so I don't have any particular recommendations. BUT the subject does require specialized knowledge. It's the knowledge aspect I'll attempt to cover in this thread.

    For me, a reasonable golf swing recording package should be able to do:
    • "High speed" recording (ie more than 30 fps).
    • Automatic capture
    • At least two views possible, Down The Line and Face-On. But not necessarily at the same time.
    • Immediate slow motion playback including frame by frame and smooth scrolling (ie jog shuttle).
    • Ability to annotate basic lines, angles and maybe track paths (ie hands/club etc).
    There is a lot more one could ask for but this list is a decent place to start.

    The next several posts will cover the background knowledge needed to select such a system. They will also cover how to set up properly to record a golf swing. Finally I will recommend an el cheapo system to get you started.
    Last edited by FaultyClubs; 12-06-2016, 07:11 AM.

  • #31
    Just got off the phone with FLIR/Point Grey the Black Fly S should work with any software that uses direct show. $345 522 FPS Who wants to be the guinea pig https://www.ptgrey.com/blackfly-s-co...on-sony-imx287

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    • htdumps
      htdumps commented
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      Ahh the elusive chase for fps continues

    • htdumps
      htdumps commented
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      What do you think about this camera?
      Blackfly S Color 2.3 MP USB3 Vision (Sony IMX392)

    • FaultyClubs
      FaultyClubs commented
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      Depends what you are trying to do exactly. You've got a few cameras, suggest starting a separate thread comparing them and defining exactly what you want to be better. There's about 50 Blackfly camera versions, they're all a perfect fit for somebody. It really depends on specific requirements.

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      • #34
        FaultyClubs
        great write up! Being we are a few years into this discussion, what would you say the best camera is to add now to get good video playback of the full swing and also close up of the club head at impact in slo-mo?

        I'm looking at the uneekor system that does the video but if I can add a camera or 2 to my existing room and keep my GC2 I'd be happy.

        thanks

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        • FaultyClubs
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          In the dirt cheap department i haven't seen anything currently better than the kayetons i mentioned earlier for swing. They won't do impact though.

          In the decent camera department the IDS 3160 is much better and can also do impact if set up properly.

          Depends what you mean by "best", there are hundreds of choices each the best for something.

          You want max fps? How does a billion fps sound? Is that best enough? Lol. Or can we scrape by with only a few hundred million fps (1k x1k)? Seriously. Some of these cameras are crazy. It's only money. Haha.
          Last edited by FaultyClubs; 09-21-2019, 08:15 AM.

        • Jwheels9876
          Jwheels9876 commented
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          Ok so I'll I get the Kayeton for the DTL cam..

          Let's say 1k and under for the overhead cam and lens for super clear high fps club impact video. Is there something out there in that price range that would fit my needs? I know next to nothing about these cameras other than what I read in your write up

        • FaultyClubs
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          "Super clear high fps club impact video" means to me HD-ish quality at 3000-4000 fps. So I would say no, nothing like that for $1k or even close to that.

          But a lot of people are excited to see 1000 fps video even if it's low resolution. The 3160 can do that and is around your budget.

      • #35
        FaultyClubs, any chance you’re using FSX18? I love my 3160 as well, but lately it hasn’t been working properly in FSX and don’t know if it’s my computer or FSX. Works great in swinguru and any other program, so likely an FSX issue but can’t get any support on ids cams from them.

        Also curious what lbs you’re using on your 3160?

        thanks!

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        • htdumps
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          Im interested in the 3160 can you do some low light test and regular light test at 1500 fps through the ids software?

      • #36
        Has anybody tried rigging a Go-Pro type camera with 720P at 120fps to record swings, in particular swing path and/or club face orientation? They are all over the place now for under $100.
        My published Courses, all Lidar:

        My Early Courses:
        Boyne Arthur Hills Lidar2
        Boyne Donald Ross LidarV2
        Boyne Moor Lidar
        BoyneHeather5T Lidar V2
        CalderoneFarmsLidar5T2Pin
        Lake Erie Metro Lidar3
        Marco Island CC Lidar3
        Willow Metropark Lidar5
        Wyandotte Shore Lidar2

        Later Courses:
        Fraserglen Golf Course, British Columbia
        Meadowbrook Northville (L)
        The Glen (Illinois) Lidar
        Deer Park Estate GC, Scotland
        Green Craig Point GC, Scotland
        Red Rock GC Las Vegas MTN
        Ottumwa Country Club
        And Many More...

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        • #37
          Great info! Been looking for help on this very topic for awhile.i want to get the video swing thing down pat before I move on to a golf simulator. Thanks

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