Am I expecting too much

[StanMI]

Just tested a 1080P projector. It is better then my 720 but I thought it would be a lot better. When projecting a 16' wide by 9' image there is a lot of pixelization. Is this normal ? I selected the highest output TGC had.

[TaS]

Did you try projecting other sources? Dvd for example?

[mikestuewe]

Did you try projecting other sources? Dvd for example?

DVD is 480p, won't see much difference on a 720p vs 1080p projector. Good idea on the other source though, try a bluray


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[aja]

Hmm. The specs only make it potentially twice as good but differences in perception are more likely logarithmic, as in, you probably need proportionally more pixels to have a noticeable effect. Like 4 x more.

Also, from where are you viewing? You shouldn't notice pixels from 10 feet away I would think.

[p3eps]

I think the answer to the overall question is probably YES!

I was in the same boat as you... upgraded from a 720p Optima GT760 to my Benq 1080p projector.
Although it looks significantly better, I can still see the pixels if I look closely. They are less obvious than the last one - however I can quite clearly see them when I'm over picking up balls. When standing on my mat in the hitting position, I can't notice them.

[goatbarn]

It's because the image is so large. Google resolution and image size chart and you can see for a given resokution/image size at what veiwing distance resolution will make a difference.

I went from 720 to 1080 couple years ago and thought it was quite a bump in picture quality.

Unfortunately images this size are meant to be viewed from 12-15' away, and we're hitting from 8-10' or so. When 4k projectors become affordable, that'll look ridiculous.

If you think a 10' wide 1080p projected image will look as crisp as a 1080p 60" tv screen when both viewed at same distance, you're mistaken.

Pixel density is the real image quality perception factor. With huge images it becomes that much more important to have a very high pixel density, or view the image from far enough away.

[Dax]

Could it be your graphic card?

Also how far back are you standing? Is it the pixel issue described above? If yes then you are too close to the screen.

[StanMI]

I think the answer to the overall question is probably YES!

I was in the same boat as you... upgraded from a 720p Optima GT760 to my Benq 1080p projector.
Although it looks significantly better, I can still see the pixels if I look closely. They are less obvious than the last one - however I can quite clearly see them when I'm over picking up balls. When standing on my mat in the hitting position, I can't notice them.

That is what I see also (Graphics card is a 1070 on an I7) !! I was hoping it would blow me away with clarity. It's MUCH better, just not that much better.

Another question.......

I have the "Superplex" screen (it called something like that). When I bought it the selling point was it was a stronger screen for impact but not quite as good of an image. If I output on a wall, or on my hand (when picking up balls) I can easily see the colored squares set from the projector. Is that normal ??????

At 10' I don't notice them as much. I was really hoping switching to the higher resolution would make the leaves on the trees look like leaves blowing in the wind. How dumb is that !!

[p3eps]

That is what I see also (Graphics card is a 1070 on an I7) !! I was hoping it would blow me away with clarity. It's MUCH better, just not that much better.

I'm exactly the same... I changed projector, upgraded to a GTX1070 and 16gb RAM all at the same time - and then was a little bit disappointed!

[StanMI]

At least I'm glad to know it's not something I did wrong !! When the 4K projectors come down in price maybe that will be the fix !!

[A.West]

Make sure tour choose the same output resolution as your native projector resolution and also make sure the settings on your projector allow for direct pixel to pixel mapping. Turn off the overscan, keystone correction, sharpening, etc, for pixel-perfect accuracy. Keystone correction may be necessary for you however.

[Dax]

Definitely sounds like you are standing too close for the size of image that you are projecting. While 4K would likely solve your issue, I think an affordable 4K that could be used for simnplaybis a little ways out. Most 4ks are focused on home theatre applications where light can be controlled and as such will not have he lumens that golf sim users want.

[thomps33]

You'll need 4K standing that close to not notice pixels. Unfortunately, I don't know of any bright short throw 4k projectors that won't cost you a kidney, 1/2 a liver, and a bone marrow transplant on the black market. This chart will help explain it. I would look for a WUXGA (1920x1200) projector until 4k projectors become more mainstream.

[wbond]

Even if using a 4k projector, I don't think any golf impact screen is going to deliver the image of 4k.

[FaultyClubs]

I can only speak for the HQ screen and it does depend on size but when I look at the size of my 1080p pixels compared to the surface texture/threading on the screen I'm pretty sure the screen will resolve far more than 1080p. More than 4k too for that matter.