Is club data worth it?

[Dbicks]

I'm going to be purchasing this unit probably today. Is club data really worth the $4,000? Also, is FSX or TGC19 more realistic gameplay. Debating buying the FSX premium courses or saving money and playing TGC19

[fortysixandtwo]

You can always try it out for 30 days once you get the unit and add it on later...
If your a club fitter or pro giving lessons it’s nice to have..
Everyones different but you can’t chase numbers to improve your swing, best to put money in lessons and a sound swing will produce good numbers. I’m learning this as an hmt owner after the fact...

[Dbicks]

You can always try it out for 30 days once you get the unit and add it on later...
If your a club fitter or pro giving lessons it’s nice to have..
Everyones different but you can’t chase numbers to improve your swing, best to put money in lessons and a sound swing will produce good numbers. I’m learning this as an hmt owner after the fact...

I forgot to mention this would be for the quad. I am not a club-fitter or pro giving lessons. This would just be for a home sim and trying to improve my game. I don't know if I can justify club data really improving my game or not

[Sixmudd]

I think club data is valuable only if you know what the numbers mean, and what in your swing is causing those numbers. Can’t really improve your club head data numbers without knowing that. If that makes sense. So like previous poster said, I would invest in lessons over the club head data.

[enigmamatt]

I love my HMT for club data -- but if you don't have them already I would invest in a high quality camera solution first. The cams that I put in have been the best tool for helping improve my swing -- you're able to confirm whether you are making changes correctly you learned in a lesson. Just my 2 cents!

[enigmamatt]

StanMI see response on next post.

[StanMI]

I'm hooked....... got a link to purchase ??? Did a search and it looks like that camera may have an updated code. Also, did not find in the U.S. ,. That's not a big deal, just really increases shipping times.

[enigmamatt]

I believe 1st Vision is the only authorized dealer in the US -- a few folks on the forum have bought from them. Here's the link. Each camera + lens runs around $800-$900 I believe. https://www.1stvision.com/cameras/mo.../UI-3140CP-M/C

[intrinsic]

I love my HMT for club data -- but if you don't have them already I would invest in a high quality camera solution first. The cams that I put in have been the best tool for helping improve my swing -- you're able to confirm whether you are making changes correctly you learned in a lesson. Just my 2 cents!

what cameras do you use? And is good lightning crucial for video quality?

[enigmamatt]

I use 2x IDS3140 cameras with Swing Catalyst software. Good lighting is crucial if you use a high FPS camera -- when I built the room I had extra lighting installed about the hitting area.

Here is a video of what the result is. https://youtu.be/9VKhsMzKH54

[Taco]

its really all about whats best for you. For me, I cant imagine not having it, I dont care what my swing looks like and the ball reacts to the club so I think the club info is the most important part But thats me, i understand the numbers, I know where i want them, and the ball flight is simply a confirmation to what I'm feeling. It also helps me experiment, try different things, different feels, have accurate data for what the club does and how the ball reacts. All that said, I have a couple friends who the info just does not resonate with them and i doubt it ever will. If i show them something about my path or their AoA or anything club related, they are as confused the 100th time as they are the 1st, its a language they just don't speak.

Lastly, I will say that GENERALLY speaking, better players understand that data and use it more effectively. That not always the case, my best friend is a +3 and played in a couple US-Mid Ams, he wants no info whatsoever. He wants to be as organic as possible and is afraid the info will cause him to adjust subconsciously. But he's the exception rather than the rule and any friend that is a pro or a high level am knows what their club is doing. My buddies who don't understand the info are 10 hdcp's, have always been and have spent more money on lessons than i have my quad. My point is, at the end of the day the only way to 100% KNOW what the club is doing is to have a trackman or a Foresight with club data, anything short of that is at best an educated guess. theres a reason pro driving ranges are filled with launch monitors and the video cameras are little used these days.

[jasonreg]

I really like the club data and use it on the range in in Pro. What I really like is being able to export the data from Pro and sharing with my golf Pro - helps him see trends for troubleshooting etc. But as others have said, it is really a personal decision. I think the best advice posted here so far was the very first post "You can always try it out for 30 days once you get the unit and add it on later..."

[StanMI]

I love my HMT.

[mthunt]

I love my HMT.

Same. Love mine too.

[fortner28]

Club data is very useful. You can think you are swinging better and improving but you could actually be grooving a bad swing. The numbers don't lie. I can identify problems more easily with data that tells you what is happening.

[chicub15]

I have club data with my Quad and can't imagine life without it.
For those who may be intimidated by all of the data Foresight offers a really cool (and free) online course which teaches you about each data parameter. https://peak.foresightsports.com/

[delaloi]

Like anything, whether it's "worth it" depends on what else you would otherwise do with the money. But FWIW, when I am practicing I pay much more attention to club data than ball data. In fact I often find the ball data and flight to be a distraction, so I often just use the Quad and turn off the projector. Once you understand the club data, that's what you want to be working on -- the ball flight is a consequence.

[AdamV]

Club data is brilliant to have, no question, but there are other ways to gain insight into what your clubhead is doing.

For example, impact tape and swing cameras tell you an enormous amount, as does ball flight, if you know what to look for.

If you can afford it you won’t be disappointed.