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    Hello all. So I bit the bullet and ordered the GC2 brand new from Foresight. My goal/intention is to use it as an in home driving range (not so much interested in sim). As such, and even though I also received the FR1 software and a few courses with my purchase, I set it up (initially) without downloading/updating anything. I literally just wanted an out-of-the-box experience; flip it open, push the power button, and go to work (happy with numbers only)... Unfortunately, there seems to be pretty significant issues. Please read on...

    The problem? My distance numbers are off by 20% (give or take) on every shot, and I even question the spin numbers... I'll use my 7 iron to give you a visual: My "normal" (real life) 7 iron is in the 165-170 yard range, no roll (my divots are within 5' of where the ball ends up). On the GC2, I cannot (even if I swing for the fences), get a distance reading of over 150 yards. Most of my shots are reading right around 140 yards; FOR A 7 IRON!

    I have read EVERY thread relating to the GC2 within these forums, and yes -- I've read the few that talk about potential issues perpetuating distance type problems. None of the advice (potential diagnosis') seem to apply:

    Here are a few important notes with regards to what I've read from previous threads:
    1) I use a CCE mat. As such, I've teed it up to ensure clean contact. No change in results noted.
    2) I have ensured the unit is level with the hitting surface, and even tried to elevate the unit by as much as 1/2" above the hitting surface. Again, no change noted.
    3) Yes, I've ensured that the kickstand is all the way deployed, and the unit is all the way open.
    4) I have experimented with varying degrees of lighting. No change noted.
    5) I've been hitting balls into my Net Return, off the CCE mat, for over 4 years now. My garage has 15' ceilings. Previous "launch monitors" (the cheap radar type) have always been relatively on par (indoor) with my outdoor swing speed and carry distances. As such, I cannot attribute this to the "indoor effect."
    6) I have ensured that measurements are in yards/mph/etc...
    7) I have tested with the pro V1, the pro V1x, the Bridgestone 330, and the Taylor made TPX. No changes noted.

    Before I move on, here were my mizuno shaft optimizer numbers with a 6 iron (also validated by a custom fitting at Izett golf):
    Head Speed 94mph | Tempo 4 | Toe down 5 | Kick Angle 7 | Release factor 9. The mizuno fitting recommended a project x 6.5 shaft, and I LOVE them...

    I just documented a few swings on the GC2, swapping out balls each time... I also measured a few with a tee (top of tee about 1/8" above the turf), where I was sure contact was clean. Also; the unit might not be perfectly aligned, but I eye-balled it parallel to the hitting mat (perpendicular to the net). Here are the numbers (I'm right handed):
    Swing 1 (with tee) Swing 2 Swing 3 (with tee) Swing 4 Swing 5 (with tee)
    Ball Speed 107 108 110 107 109
    Launch Angle 23.7 25.2 23.5 25.2 23.8
    Push/Pull 2.4L 2.6L 3.8L 0.1R 2.0L
    Side Spin 1256R 1646R 1021R 2151R 1725R
    Back Spin 7845 8390 7057 8960 8190
    Carry 141 139 145 136 142









    For perspective, these numbers are typical of my "real life" 9 iron distances (per laser range finder). I'm not the greatest golfer in the world, but I have a very clear understanding of my iron gaps. Also, on swing 1 and swing 4 I tried to "draw" the ball. The ball clearly hit the net just about center, and spun to the left (you can see this happening with the Net Return). My normal miss (in real life) is a pull, sometimes a pull hook.

    To me, the launch angle and back spin seem to be way off, but I'm not an expert with GC2 numbers...

    To be clear: I have not downloaded/updated any software. I literally took it (the GC2) out of the box, and went to work. Again, I'm not very interested in simulation software; I just want numbers (plan on using the ipad app almost exclusively).

    My "version" (per the unit display) is 4.0.0.15; "copyright 2015."

    You guys are the experts and so I'd love to hear/read your opinions. Another member is currently emailing me the 'tilt-calibration' software, but I'm a little upset that this may be necessary. The unit is literally brand new (just received it two days ago)... Do you guys think that the tilt calibration is the obvious solution, or can something else be going on? Must I hook this thing up to the internet and download drivers/software for it to work properly???

    Looking forward to any/all responses; thanks!
    Last edited by Danielwt; 08-11-2016, 03:07 AM.

  • #31
    Ok so if foresight is reading this, nice response on sending out a replacement unit first. :-)
    And..can you let go of making fsx courses and just partner up with TGC and JNPG..
    :-)

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    • #32
      *UPDATE*

      Today I received, and tested, the GC2 replacement that Foresight sent me. Drum-roll anybody?....................The numbers are right in line with what I should expect!

      Here's where this whole saga gets even crazier though:

      Yesterday, before receiving the "new" unit, I decided to hit balls in the garage. I went ahead and used the "old" unit, basically just to compare numbers between four different 8-irons that I have. The numbers on the GC2 were still horribly off, but I figured I could use the differences (in numbers) between the various clubs and determine which ones launch higher/lower, spin more/less, etc... After about 30 minutes into my session, the battery on the GC2 ran out. I was right in the "thick of things" with my club comparisons, so I decided to put it on the charger and continue... And crazy enough -- believe it, or not -- the numbers (after the charge) were right in line with what I should expect! Kinda' like the battery running out "reset" it (in a good way), or something...

      So today, when I received the "new" unit, I decided to do a comparison between the GC2's. I started with the "old" unit first, because it was already in place. The numbers it gave me again seemed legitimate. After 20 balls, or so, I switched out the GC2's (I was now using the "new" unit), and just like the "old" unit - the numbers continued to seem legit. Yes...both units were essentially spitting out the same numbers...

      But it doesn't all end well... I then switched the units again (to re-test "old" unit), and the numbers were right back to being horribly off. Confused, but inquisitive, I decided to turn the unit off, then back on, and try again... The numbers were right back to being legitimate

      I did forward this information to Foresight, so hopefully they can use it to troubleshoot the unit, and potentially refurbish it.

      Anyways, time to go put some work in! Thanks for all the help guys. See you around the forums!

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      • #33
        Very glad to hear!!! The GC2 is a top notch unit and it should be for the price. I believe there will be faulty products in every aspect of life, and unfortunately for you, yours was a faulty unit. Foresight did right by sending you a new unit, with readings that are very dependable. It is crazy how you got the old faulty unit to get legit numbers by running out the battery, but it went back to false readings after a while. Hopefully, Foresight can fix that unit and sell it refurbished. The good news is you have your new accurate GC2! The have very helpful tech support over there and stand behind their product.

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