TGC Penalty System Explained

[Maverick]

TGC Penalties explained:
Light Rough, Rough, and fairway sand are about 1 club or about 7% loss of distance. Heavy rough is about 2 clubs or about 13% loss of distance . Green side bunkers are about 50%. Bunkers 50 yards or less from green will have 50% penalty applied. Great than 50 will have 7% penalty applied.
Ignore all displayed lie penalties in the game.

TGC penalty settings(when TGC is enabled):

GC2 users:
Set all penalties sliders in GSX to default of zero.

ProTee system users:
In ProTee Interface, set green bunker penalty to 40 and all other penalties to zero.

[goatbarn]

So what would 1 club difference be in %, since everyone hits their clubs different lengths?

Especially when you get to less than full shots, knowing this % would help. Example: You're in the light rough from 60 yards. Would you play it like 70, 80, 90 yards?...etc.

[Maverick]

It's 1 club or approximately 7% loss of distance for light rough, rough, and fairway bunkers. For heavy rough, it's 2 clubs or approximately 13% lose of carry.

[goatbarn]

Perfect, thanks.

Back in my Protee days, that was the way for me to "club up", take the distance, multiply the penalty %, and club for the new yardage.

[drcabral]

Just like in real golf, if u stayed in the fairway u wouldn't have this problem. Their should be unknowns that's why u try not go there because u have to guestemate.

[goatbarn]

I think sim golf is a little different, and it should be.

In real golf you can gauge by the lie how it's going to come out...flier, buried, sitting on top, wet, dry, thick...etc. It's part of the skills learned from playing over the years.

Sim golf the penalty should be a % of distance, since we are all less accurate from further away. And that's how it's setup in most sims. I don't think the % should vary, or I should say, vary widely. I'd be down for a penalty that may be 10-15% light rough or 20-25% heavy rough, but any other variance and you'd just be guessing.

It's penalty enough to take a 150 yard shot and make it a 188 yard shot (25% penalty). Even with a well struck ball, you're going to end up further away from the hole, on average.

My opinion of course.

[Js1010]

Have a question on Sand Penalty. Was about 40 yards short of a green in a bunker - believe tgc display said Sand. I hit my shot 62 yards based on the Gc2 display but the tgc sent the ball 28 yards and ended up very short. So it took a 50% penalty on this. I didn't figure it was a green side bunker because it was 40 yards away from the green. How do we know if its green side or just a regular fairway bunker and know what type of penalty its going to apply?

[Maverick]

Bunkers 50 yards or less from green will have 50% penalty applied. This was posted in elsewhere but I forgot to put it here.

[bpep]

So I have a question with the penalities. When I was in the heavy rough "Kentucky Open", flat lie, I would hit a 180 yd carry on GC2, but the ball would only go 100 yds. Also, and more importantly, when I was in a fairway bunker, I would register 160 yds on GC2 and it would go 90 yds. I can pick it in real life and get a pretty similar distance as fairway minus maybe 1 club. The penalty is about 50% for both and if the rough is really that bad , I never play courses that are thats fine, but in my opinion the fairway bunkers shouldn't penalize you that much. I may be missing a setting because I thought it was a 2 club penalty in heavy rough and a 1 club penalty in fairway bunker. Just wanted to send my thoughts from my round last night with Hoosierdaddy. Thanks.

[Maverick]

Bpep,

You must have something set wrong in GSX maybe. That should not have happened. Make sure your GSX sliders are at default and TGC is enabled in GSX settings. And also, are you using TGC 2.2 and GSX 0.6.3?

[bpep]

Zmax, yes I am using TGC 2.2 and GSX 0.6.3. I will check the settings, but I have never touched them. I tell you though, most everything else is pretty spot on. Had a great round last night with Hoosierdaddy and I'm getting it closer to my real game. If I didn't have these dramatic penalties, it would probably be pretty close (I was in the heavy rough quite a bit and spent time trying to figure out why it was such a harsh penalty. Thanks for all your help, we will get it there.

[drewpac]

To get these penalty settings do I need to adjust the sliders in the protee interface or is it supposed to adjust automatically? When I hit out of a greenside bunker I get crazy fliers. I barely hit a flop shot and it goes 40 yards. Thx

[Bubba22]

Did you set greenside bunkers to 40?

[drewpac]

I never touched the sliders for bunkers, rough, etc and they are all the way to the left.

[drewpac]

Just saw zmaxs interface settings (alt e) and noticed the 40 on greenside bunkers...ill have to check those settings tomorrow...so if I understand correctly, I need to edit the penalty in alt e and leave the sliders alone?