Uneekor System

[TheBandit]

I took the leap and got a Uneekor. I am hoping it is not a unicorn! 1st thing stay away from the fairway pro with this system. if you found a way for it to work with the uneekor let me know otherwise I am sending it back. 2nd spend the money right away on a good hitting mat. The Motivo is a great mat but not for the Uneekor. I just ordered the TrueStrike mat and I hope this eliminates the distance problems I am receiving from the system. I hit my 7 Iron anywhere from 155 to 180yards on the course and I have hit 158 tops on this system. I am blaming the mat and balls as of right now. Balls! been emailing companies and have received responses of sorry but NO! IDK why this is but it is a major downfall with the unit. the most accurate readings have come from chipping and 9 iron and down. once I got over to 8 iron and up the ball just has no distance. I have recalibrated the system a few times and got the calibration successful every time. I will continue to play with the system as I am only about 12 hours into it with play. If I can get reliable readings with distance I will pull the trigger on TGC software. Anyone with helpful suggestions please let me know. Peace The_Bandit.

[rjd1975]

TheBandit I am not going to be able to articulate the technical details (but maybe someone else can)...but your numbers will be closer to what you expect on TGC. TGC uses the raw data captured from whatever simulator you use (Skytrak, GC2, Uneekor...) and then they run it through their algorithm. There is a difference and it presents itself more the further the ball goes. If the Uneekor says that I hit my driver 255 carry it might be closer to 265-270 on TGC. Part of the reason is that Uneekor is calculated using sea level but I think there are other factors.

As far as the balls go, I agree that it is the biggest issue with the system but the stickers make it much less of an issue. Talk to HarryB or cmckelvmi to get some (I think Cmc's stickers are better but both are good and have their advantages)

There are many other factors that influence your yardages: mat (like you mentioned), getting used to an indoor swing, simple over-estimation of how far you hit the ball (but that couldn't be the case

I hope I helped in some way

[mikemcd22]

Have had the system a few days myself. rjd1975 is correct. The numbers are different on TGC and seem to be more accurate then they are in the native app for Uneekor (IMO, Graphics are also way better on TGC). But for the money, you get video feedback, excellent accuracy (no no-reads) , Instant ball flight on impact and freedom to put the ball nearly anywhere. You also get club fitting program (if you need it) and the ability to add two cameras. The combination of the Uneekor with TGC makes it a home run in my opinion and I understand Uneekor is working on patching up some of the issues. I'm sure they are listening and so far, great customer service!

They LM's and Software all have their nuances. TGC has way too much roll out on approach shots (E6 will let you back spin a ball, TGC rolls out several yards). Skytrak limits you to the laser dot, has a 3-5 second delay and doesn't handle high ball speeds well (150 and up), I'm sure Foresight LM''s and the software it comes with has its own unique issues as well.

I'm banking on Uneekor tweaking everything in the right direction.

[shwag33]

I think the Uneekor+TGC yardages are absolute spot on. I feel most people think they hit the ball farther than they really do, especially carry distances. I doubt the truestrike solves you problem. The gel makes hitting fat shots less forgiving, unlike driving range mats where you can bounce it in. I personally like the fact that you get punished for hitting a poor shot.

The uneekor system does report slightly lower than TGC. I run Ignite on my monitor while running TGC on the projector. Carry distances are always slightly longer on TGC. That said we're talking 5-10 yards max, not 20.

[Brettster]

TheBandit - Wow, 25 yards shorter because of balls/mat? Are you talking the quality of the balls which have to be marked for Uneekor are causing the problem - what kind are they, and what are you used to hitting? Curious where you find the different balls that are marked, and which variety of brands/ball types you can pick to be printed/marked? That would make a big difference to me.

I could see the mat would be a problem with irons, let us know what you find when you have a new mat and new balls that are the same, or close to what you hit on the course, what did you find?

[TheBandit]

If you are thinking about investing in the ststem I would highly suggest it. I am being very hard on these issues but it is the mat and the software if I can go score 4 over by clubbing up 2 clubs so be it. I am 100 % sure with my new mat the iron play will come. I was banging 240 yards with my new driver tonight with the bridgestone balls and new tees i think helped hugely. I have only played a few rounds and every round is improving as I was not a sim golfer and there is some adjustments.

[BGCurtis2nd]

I have used the LIDAR mapping and reproduced 4 of the real life courses I play on, I also use the Bridgestone golf ball on the Uneekor and watch my tee shots land in the same spot on the courses I play in TGC2019 as they do on the real courses. Now they may not be 100% but to me I can not tell the difference, from the feel of the shot the ball lands where I would expect it to land on the real life course, that said I would much more prefer using the same balls I use in real life but really I do not see any difference from simulator to real course. Could be I just have my game out of whack and not seeing it but like I said I don't see a yardage loss. As far as getting anyone to print the patter on the balls not had any luck on that either I have gone as far as designing a print machine that will do the pattern but an having problems finding the UV lights to cure the ink.

[shwag33]

I don't see much yardage difference between the bridgestone balls and pro-v's with stickers. Spin is more noticable, you can actually get spin on the greens if you actually spin the ball a lot.

[TheBandit]

Ok for everyone questionoing distance and club reading. My 3W i hit 200 to 230 average on the course. Uneekor driving range 200 to 225. 8I is my 150 out club all day every day. Usual problem slight pull on over powered swing resulting in missing left and 5 yards Plus more. Pw,9, 8,7,6,5,4 mx I can get on uneekor is 150 yards. I play 5 to 10 rounds a week in summer I know my clubs and distances even use the bushnell laser still on my home course so I use the correct club. Austin is helping me out. He watched and is confused himself. Hoping its just the mat but I am having doubts.

[Brettster]

Wow, let us know what you and Austin find out? Have to be certain yardages are accurate before purchase myself!

[Putt-For-Doe]

Bandit

I received my unit yesterday. I am noticing that my wedges thru 9 seem to be only about 4 to 8 yards short on carry. Once I get to 8 iron up I start loosing more distance. I especially noticed this during course play. I hit a 5 iron avg 175 to 180 carry on course. In game shot rolled to 135 yds

[Uk101jkt]

I will be very curious when you get this worked out. I have trouble getting passed 130 yrds with my 7 iron on Uneekor where it's 150 on the range (which is a lake style so the distance is clear). I hit at a pga shop the other day and was 150 to 170 carry with a new 7 iron in their Sim.

I had put it down to inside shot etc but am begining to feel it's more than that. Its not the mat as it happens when I tee the ball up too. Let us know then outcome.

[gene438]

Guys, my go to club for 150yds is also an 8 iron on the course. I can tell you on the Uneekor software it is 138 carry/143 total. On TGC, my carry is 144 and total is 151. That is using a Pro V1 with sticker dots. I consider the Uneekor/TGC combo spot on. If you are not getting your numbers, I suggest charting your club speed, ball speed, LA, carry distance, and total distance. There has to be something wrong (mat, Uneekor unit, ball, etc.) Find out what stat is really out and drill down on it. Don't despair, you will figure it out.

Also, there has been one software update that specifically adjusted the algorithm that calculated distances in the Uneekor software....make sure you are updated. Work with Austin, he will get you straighten out.

[FistPump]

Hi guys new to the forum here. If I can chime in. My good friend has a Skytrak and experienced similar things. He showed me these links that helped him with his distance shortages. I think this is pretty common in indoor golf set ups.

https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum...than-real-life

https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum...nces-are-short

[Brettster]

Hi guys new to the forum here. If I can chime in. My good friend has a Skytrak and experienced similar things. He showed me these links that helped him with his distance shortages. I think this is pretty common in indoor golf set ups.

https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum...than-real-life

https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum...nces-are-short

I just looked at those and it appears that the Mat may be part (if not all) of the problem.... If that is the case, have a look at these 2 other posts I found on how to build out a Mat with Gel underneath which may solve the problem?
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Ok, I found the post I with the Motorcycle Gel seat underneath the mat. Actually there are 2 posts that describe using it:

1.) This one is the one I read first: https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum...or-only-271-50

2.) This one appears to be a modification of it, for about $100 less: https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum...for-around-175

and here is where you can buy the Gel material, for about $70: https://www.onlygel.com/collections/...d-stock-series

I hope that helps...

[TheBandit]

It has to be the software with the elevation in the numbers. Uneekor has been great working with me and trying to figure things out. even watched me hit shots. nerve wrecking when you have tech people watching your swing and numbers but I came thru lol. bought my F9 driver today. 1st upgrade in 14 years lol. I loved my old cobra but felt it was time. Yet again uneekor shows about what I expect to see on the course with my driver and 3w. Can't wait to see the TGC 2019 software in action. Will keep you all updated thanks for the feedback so far keep them coming.

[TheBandit]

Did 18 holes tonight 2nd 9 went ok

[FistPump]

Some of you guys might find this article interesting. Altitude can affect carry distances as much as 6% or 15 yards. I know Uneekor does not have altitude setting in their system and I have been told by them that they are calibrated at sea level. I wish they had a setting for altitude.

https://www.titleist.com/teamtitleis...l-aerodynamics

[FaultyClubs]

Some of you guys might find this article interesting. Altitude can affect carry distances as much as 6% or 15 yards. I know Uneekor does not have altitude setting in their system and I have been told by them that they are calibrated at sea level. I wish they had a setting for altitude.

https://www.titleist.com/teamtitleis...l-aerodynamics

Here's something from Trackman. At 5000 ft yeah maybe as much as 6 percent for average male amateur. People always focus on the maximum but ignore the fact it depends on club, altitude and golfer and can be much less. Not sure it's significant for most.

oops forgot to include the link.. lol

https://blog.trackmangolf.com/how-altitude-affects-the-distance-your-ball-flies/