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    Another "Which to pick??" Thread

    Getting ready to build a building to house my simulator. So, I feel like I want to choose the launch monitor/software setup now, and figure out what to do from there.

    Requirements/needs:
    1) LH and RH play with no adjustments (non-negotiable, I'm a lefty, with 6 righty friends playing frequently)
    2) Club and ball data are essential, with club more so than ball
    3) Repeatability and accuracy are important to me
    4) Putting not a huge deal, but would be nice, am willing to pay more for putting & chipping sensors
    5) Would love to integrate with high speed cameras of swing to be able to seamlessly replay swings and see club & ball data with those swings
    6) Would be nice to have a seamless overall package (I did GolfTec, just didn't like the camera quality, the GC2 was tough to orient for a lefty sometimes, and no club path/face angle data)


    Constraints/Priorities:
    1) Can be permanent mounted
    2) Needs to be available in summer 2019
    3) Building will be about 20x20, (maybe too small for Trackman?)
    4) Don't care about marked balls, would rather not mark clubs
    5) Budget-conscious, but not a deal-breaker if I went 20k (Trackman)

    From reading the thousands of posts...it seems like it is:

    GC Hawk (if becomes available) (should be good accuracy?)
    Uneekor (if becomes available) (should be great price compared to Hawk or Trackman, but did say "slight adjustment for LH/RH" which would be dealbreaker if another system worked)
    ProTee (what's the downside of using Protee? Seems affordable, accurate, TGC is nice, only issue is raised floor/mat & permanent install?)
    TrackMan 4 ($$ and space)

    I want to plan everything now, I just can't get the launch monitor selection quite figured out.

    Appreciate you sages weighing in for me.
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  • #2
    I think the uneekor comment about adjustment was because of their setup at the show. When setup properly I don't think there would be any adjustment

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    • baker2217
      #2.1
      baker2217 commented
      02-15-2019, 02:19 PM
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      Ahhhh. Thanks. That makes more sense.
  • #3
    Just to add to the list (wouldn't want to make the choice too easy :-)

    Flightscope Xi Tour is a reasonable cost option for both accurate club and ball data - but at the cost of not being able to Putt. Can use in e6 1.6 (connect integration not ready) or JNPG.

    Flightscope X3 cost a bit more and gives putting - not nearly as costly as Trackman 4 (and no annual fee for FS). Supported in E6 Connect (not v1.6) - don't know about JNPG. And putting right now is a little buggy from what I understand - although that should improve.

    For any of the Radar units, 20' should be enough. 18' is about the minimum requirements Radar to screen.

    Who knows what will happen to GCHawk or what to expect for accuracy or if the clubs will need to be marked (only for club data) - but one thing I would expect is it to be limited to FSX software only.

    FullSwing (S2) systems would meet your requirements - although also pricey. But I'd suggest it over TM.
    Last edited by StuartG; 02-14-2019, 07:05 PM.

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    • #4
      Also Don't know about it's accuracy (likely in the same category as ProTee) but TruGolf's newest sensors get both club and ball data.

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      • #5
        Good info, thank you! I'm leaning toward a camera-based system like Uneekor, Hawk, TruGolf or FullSwing as it seems it would require much less space, leaving the area behind to put in some seating and viewing gallery. Anyone know what TruGolf or FullSwing $$s are, and what that includes?

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        • StuartG
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          StuartG commented
          02-15-2019, 01:22 PM
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          Yes, even if you have the space, things can get a little cramped with the Radars. The main benefit (IMO) is that they can be beneficial for working on your game outside of the sim (take to the range with you).

          For TruGolf sims - can range from $10k to $25k depending on the various sizes and options.

          Not sure but I've read FullSwing starts around $20k and can go up to $50k.

          And both of those I believe are fairly complete packages. Not sure but may even include installation work.

          FYI there is a used FullSwing package for sale on ebay ~$10k starting bid - but it's pick-up only in Southern Maine. I probably would have jumped on it had I seen it before starting my build.
          Last edited by StuartG; 02-15-2019, 01:27 PM.
      • #6
        Well, I think you are going about it the right way....you seemed to know what is important to you and that is key. I agree with most of your assumptions.

        I'm on ProTee, so I will give you my 2 cents.....

        1)permanent setup may take a bit of work and time to dial in, but once set is solid
        2)Great for left/right
        3)Best as far as 0 shot delay in TGC.....
        4)2 options as far as flooring. Hit off built up pad of build up entire floor. Although this may sound like additional work, let me make one point. I built up my entire floor and installed very good (expensive) turf with 6 putting holes and I honestly believe it is my favorite feature of my simulator room.....Everyone comes in and hits a few putts.....I would not look at having to buid up the floor as a negative, you might find that it is your favorite feature........just food for thought.
        5)The price difference in the radar systems and protee will more than pay for subfloor and turf......

        I am looking at the Uneekor, but don't think you will see it in market until June or July.....but looks very interesting.......I really like the close integration of video cameras.....

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        • baker2217
          #6.1
          baker2217 commented
          02-15-2019, 02:41 PM
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          Thank you! How deep is your raised floor (without the putting holes)? I'm starting to hone in on the fact that it might be nice to have the shallowest depth required, as it will allow me to put a little sports bar behind the simulator. So, that would push me toward something requiring the least depth. That still seems to be 15-20 feet, though.
      • #7
        Two gc2s, but only one at a time for tgc

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        • StuartG
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          StuartG commented
          02-15-2019, 01:25 PM
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          I might be missing something but that's going to be true in most cases. At least I've not heard of any sim software that can handle more than one LM at a time.
        • Ports
          #7.2
          Ports commented
          02-17-2019, 06:20 PM
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          Fsx supports dual gc2, one lh one rh
      • #8
        If you are not into adjustments, I'm not sure how Protee would work out. Also, I've only had my unit a short time, but I'm not sure you would be satisfied with ball or club accuracy. My sensor developed an issue, so that may be adding to my concerns. Still, to make the unit reasonably accurate, it's a must to know your numbers. I would say for best results those numbers would have to be from Trackman or Flightscope and would be for every club.

        TGC is not bad at all. Still, it appears to me it was not originally intended for golfers, but console players. TGC 2019 is in the wings and may well address most or perhaps all of the short comings. Among the issues is a good search feature to find courses or ranges to play per your criteria. No multiple tees is also a major issue. Even with those issues, I still like it. Good graphics and play.

        I have not played on a simulator that I would call accurate for ball and club data for left and right players. From reviews, GC2 with HMT or GCQuad may fit, although I've only seen one setup that may have had both and that was only with GC2's and thus only ball data.

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        • baker2217
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          baker2217 commented
          02-15-2019, 02:11 PM
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          I should've reworded that...I'm ok with adjustments of sensors, cameras, etc. periodically. What I meant was, I don't want to have to move a GC2 from side to side every time we change players, or have to move the Uneekor on a track back and forth overhead (although from an above comment, I think that is my misunderstanding).
      • #9
        [QUOTE=baker2217;n186551]Getting ready to build a building to house my simulator. So, I feel like I want to choose the launch monitor/software setup now, and figure out what to do from there.

        Requirements/needs:
        1) LH and RH play with no adjustments (non-negotiable, I'm a lefty, with 6 righty friends playing frequently)

        One thing to consider is if you are constantly playing with the same friends is if the sim will allow for multiple players and keep their data. My buddies and I play on a regular basis, and we have to keep everything on a whiteboard for the cup (a golden (yeti) chalice) that the winner gets to keep until the following months winner. We have to enter their name each time, and cannot add any local multiplayer and keep their info. Also, a little gambling goes on the side and the eraser has been used in the past on the white board. I am going to upgrade when I move to new house and watching this with interest as I play with two lefties.

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        • #10
          I think that TruGolf might be a good fit for what you’re looking for. I choose to go with them because I have 3 friends that are lefties and I didn’t want to waste time moving the launch monitor back and forth.


          Their units can be set-up and taken down, but it’s about a two hour process so definitely better if you have the ability to have it setup in a permanent location. Sounds like that’s not much of an issue for you.


          The simulator is extremely accurate and tracks drivers, irons, and even putters. The 4K HD graphics still blow me away every time. My buddies and I can all get a course in (up to 8 players). My handicap has dropped from 16 to 9 from practicing with my simulator, so I’d have to say it worth the investment.


          The nice thing about the software is that each user creates their own user profile and the software keeps track of all the data and stats. It saves a headache from having to write it all down and keep track of it.


          TruGolf simulator come as a complete golf simulator package. They start around $10,000 and go up from there depending which one you go with, and in my opinion are on par with $45,000 or even $70,000 simulators.


          I’m definitely biased since I have a TruGolf unit, but definitely worth adding to your list while you’re looking.

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          • #11
            How is your research coming along? Did you make a decision? I am facing a similar set of requirements.

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            • #12
              Sorry...been awhile, I made my decision and installed HD Golf...and I love it...

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              • #13
                Originally posted by baker2217 View Post
                Sorry...been awhile, I made my decision and installed HD Golf...and I love it...
                Awesome, can you tell us a little more about what you like about it? A video maybe? I considered them, very nice setup, though quite pricey, I'm building out a ProTee setup at the moment.

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                • #14
                  Originally posted by baker2217 View Post
                  Sorry...been awhile, I made my decision and installed HD Golf...and I love it...
                  Congrats and enjoy. Big price tag for HD. What was the cost? Good system. Out of curiosity, why HD?

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