Pro Tee or Skytrak? I'm so confused

[ADPhillips13]

I grabbed a SkyTrak around Father's day it came out to $2600 and included Net Return Pro, Side Panels and 6x6 Hitting mat. It also included the WGT and Game Improvement and the Skytrak protective case. After thinking about and seeing the very close proximity the ST is from your ball at address I started having second thoughts. I purposely did not use the ST once doubt kicked in because I had a feeling if I used the WGT app i'd forfeit $200 when I returned the unit. Mind you I have no simulator experience other than playing on Trackman at a local Golf Social. Based on what I have read on both units this is what I have learned.


SkyTrak

Pros
Price
mobility
accuracy
multiple software options

Cons
Location to ball at address ( Fear kids or high handicapper shanks a ball into unit)
WGT on iPad is weak
No multiple player
Annual Software Bill
Annual Game Improvement Bill

Pro Tee
Pros
Sensors in the mat
Club and Ball tracking
Softer hitting surface??
The Golf Club subscription
Pro tee 2.0
no yearly fees
right and left hand play
kids can use


Cons
Price
not sure about accuracy

Anyone with any advice would be greatly appreciated. my space is a 10x10x10 area not sure if the pro tee would work in that amount of room. just looking for opinions of both units and any pro's and cons you have for either.

[penrose]

I know very little about protee. They seem to run the forum here or are very active in it - my point is they seem dedicated to the success of golf sims. I would call them and ask them why you and not skytrak. I would have if I knew about them before I purchased the skytrak.

I like the sktrak. The distance of the ball from the unit does not bother me - but I do not have any kids and I am the worst golfer in my group of golfer friends - of course anything can happen but so far I have not come close to hitting it.

The annual costs do not bother me since they are very low and it gives them a constant revenue stream to keep making it better which they seem to date to doing. I am not sure what room protee needs but skytrak again does not need much room.

WGT is weak, but works and is a great starter sim. The following month I purchased a new PC and TGC - and it kicks ass.

good luck.

[ADPhillips13]

Penrose, I really appreciate the information. I tried to call Pro Tee yesterday and left a message I'm going to give them another call today. My kids what to learn how to play and a simulator is ideal for me. I have the Sky Trak right now but before I send it back I'm just trying to collect the opinions of people with the ST and the PT. Any and all information is appreciated.

[ProTee United]

We received your voicemail. We are in a different timezone, so we asked one of our resellers - Cory from Par2Pro - to give you a call during the day. He will be able to give you some more details on the ProTee system. Hope thats not a problem... If you have any questions, send us an email or PM. Thanks!

[Bnorman58]

My 2 cents. I havent used the sky trak but from reading on here, a lot of people are very happy with it. I have a ProTee and love it. It takes quite a bit of trial and error after setup but ProTee support has been great. It is very accurate on the club head data, swing path, and smash factor (since it has club and ball data, which I find very accurate) which is great info when trying to improve your swing. It is susceptible to a misread every now and then but with 2 camera's and the sensor, it has a lot of moving parts. There is a lot of good info on here but it is a lot to absorb. So, I dont think you can go wrong either way but know that ProTee takes patience to set up. Mine is so worth it now that it is stable.

[m3w]

You can't go wrong with Skytrak. It's helping my swing quite a bit. I've never used a Protee system. But others' comments bring up one question: If it takes a lot of trial and error to set it up correctly - How do you know when it's set up correctly? The first time anyone hits a ball indoors on a Skytrak, they are shocked at how short everything is, or how much they're hooking/slicing everything. If you're setting up the Protee system to reflect what you think your shots are like, how do you know it's accurate? When I first hit on my Skytrak, I assumed it was wrong. Is it possible that some first time Protee owners are tweaking their system under the false pretense that it's not accurate? Or does the system have some sort of quantifiable performance standards?

[Bnorman58]

Believe me, I am not fooling myself. I have been hitting golf balls for 45 years and I know when it's right. Ball speed is right on track with gc2, club speed is actual and not ball speed/1.45. Launch angle and azimuth are dialed in with camera's and absolutely accurate and reviewable on camera's. Tweaking means camera setup and lighting/background. Not distance.

[ProTee United]

ProTee is not that difficult to setup, but requires a a little bit more work then for example a SkyTrak. Most users find it difficult to setup the overhead lights and cameras. The lights need to be directly on top and the cameras must be placed at the correct position. The room should be dark. Ambient light or direct sunlight will cause issues. The cameras need to find the ball, so tweaking the cameras to compensate for too much or not enough light is something that needs to be done in order to get it to work correctly. Once all set correctly you are ready to tee off.

Every setup is different. By default our cameras expect a black background. You can imagine that with no background at all, or colored back walls, a car as background in a double garage, a washing machine and many other variables will require a bit of camera tweaking to get the ball picked up correctly.

ProTee is a professional DIY system. If the DIY part fails, our helpdesk is happy to provide support via email and if needed we logon to your computer and fix/tweak whatever is needed to get it all up and running.

[Boerdoc]

You can't go wrong with Skytrak. It's helping my swing quite a bit. I've never used a Protee system. But others' comments bring up one question: If it takes a lot of trial and error to set it up correctly - How do you know when it's set up correctly? The first time anyone hits a ball indoors on a Skytrak, they are shocked at how short everything is, or how much they're hooking/slicing everything. If you're setting up the Protee system to reflect what you think your shots are like, how do you know it's accurate? When I first hit on my Skytrak, I assumed it was wrong. Is it possible that some first time Protee owners are tweaking their system under the false pretense that it's not accurate? Or does the system have some sort of quantifiable performance standards?

I play a lot of golf both in the sim and IRL. Though I do not play well, I know what a well struck 8 iron does. 150 yds. I Also take lessons at golftec and they use GC2. I must say Protee is very accurate right out of the box on its measurements and calculations. As Protee indicated, The setup is just getting the cameras situated correctly and the settings on the camera to pick up the shots. This is similar to taking a picture with light behind the subject, you have to tweak the camera settings to get a clear picture. The subject is accurate once the settings are adjusted for the surroundings. You can screw things up if you try to but it works very well right from the start. Protee is great about getting things right.

My favorite thing about Protee is that I can play rounds of golf with both left-handed and right-handed players without any changes in the setup.

[ADPhillips13]

This has all been very helpful. I'm looking at the Pro Tee packages, wondering if I really need the putting sensor... without it is putting impossible? Like I said prior my space is 10x10x10 will that be enough for Pro Tee to work effectively?

[Bnorman58]

That's the same size I have and it works great. You will have to offset a little though so left handed may not be possible. I don't have the putting sensor and putting is fine.

[ProTee United]

You have a very limited space available for your sim. Find the spot you are going to play from. Swing your driver, i7 and shortest wedge inside your room so you know where the ball is going to be (fixed position). You should be able to swing freely without hitting any walls or ceiling. Also keep in mind with 2 or more players that waiting players are at a safe position while you swing.

Here is a picture showing the "ideal" space for any kind of sim: http://csc.protee-united.com/hc/en-u...tor-dimensions

[717golfer]

I bought my system used, did not come with putting sensor. Putting was ok but you had to stay clear of overhead light. Bought a used sensor from someone here. Love it! It makes putting much easier and you learn how to hit the ball straight - straight. (What happens when you hit the ball thru sensors and a good putt results.) You can always add it later just make sure you allow for the addition in your setup.