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  • Proposed New Online Play Guidelines for the Optishot Online Tour - final draft

    The Optishot Tour Management Board

    1. The Optishot Tour Board consists of 4 Board Members and a Tour Secretary.

    2. They will manage The Optishot Online Tour, managing the guidelines and tournaments, as well as overseeing the integrity and regulations of play by all members.

    3. They will review all applications for setting changes and review all evidence provided before making their decision. They must publish a formal statement relating to the setting change if approved

    4. They will handle all reports of breaches of the following guidelines by way of a closed discussion, and administer the penalties in accordance with the guidelines below. They must publish formal statements relating to the breach and penalty applied.

    5. They have the powers to apply leniency in the event of supporting evidence. In such event a full disclosure of the information and reason for leniency must be published alongside the statement to not award/reduce the penalty.

    6. A current list of Board Members is found at


    http://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum/...-online-league



    Ball Settings

    1. Players MUST set the ball type to the actual ball they are physically hitting. Players are to hit either a Real ball or Foam ball if their setup allows, due to unreliable data from the No Ball setting.


    Clubset Settings

    1. Players Driver settings MUST be set the to following, dependant on the ball and turf type they are using.

    a. Real Ball, Stock Turf - 100% Speed, 88% Distance.............

    b. Real Ball, Thick Turf - 100% Speed 88% Distance...............

    c. Foam Ball, Stock Turf - 93% Speed, 88% Distance.............

    d. Foam Ball, Thick Turf - 100% Speed, 88% Distance..............

    e. No Ball Setting - 100% Speed 88% Distance ......................

    2. Players MUST set the Loft Setting of all clubs to the loft of the club they are physically hitting

    3. If using a 3 wood instead of Driver due to Height Restrictions Use Identical settings to those you would normally use as per your ball and turf setup above.

    4. 3 wood and 5 wood MUST NOT exceed Speed % relative to your own personal ball and turf setup as above, but Distance % Settings MAY be up to MAX 100% Most players seem to find 100 % Speed, 100 % Distance is perfect, however if you find distances are long then set to 100% Speed 90% Distance or whatever it is to make them correct. Loft setting may have an effect here as with the irons

    5. Players Irons MUST be set to achieve real world distances and both Speed% and Distance % settings may be altered up or down to achieve the correct distances.

    6. Players may set the Putter Speed % Setting between 80% and 100% to reflect there real life Putting stroke. The Distance % MUST remain at 100%
    When Putting, players MUST hit either a real or foam ball, unless using the No Ball Setting for the whole round.

    7. Players MUST NOT carry out any adjustments to any Clubset Settings during a round.

    8. Any individual Driver, 3 or 5 wood settings outside of the above guidelines may be adjusted to a different % ONLY if evidence from an external device, ie TRACKMAN/GC2/FLIGHTSCOPE etc can prove without doubt that a persons Swing Speed/Distance is not being accurately read by Optishot and an adjustment away from the settings above is required. This change would need to be approved by the Board on a case by case basis.

    9 - Penalty . Anyone found in breach of the above settings or using settings for any club to falsely significantly improve their ability or gameplay (ie, hitting a PW 250 yards) shall be removed from the Tournament and/or face further action as the Board do see fit. Minor breaches may be subject to stroke penalties or warnings at the discrepancy of The Board on a case by case basis



    ​Trajectory Settings

    1. The Highest Trajectory setting MUST NEVER be used off the tee or for approach shots from the fairway/rough purely in order to gain yardage but is to be used in situations when a higher trajectory is required to clear obstacles or obstructions. All other trajectory settings may be used and altered at any time with any club during a round

    2 - Penalty - Anyone found in breach of the above guideline shall be awarded a 2 stroke penalty for each individual offence.



    Screen Recording Requirement

    1. All Players MUST record/stream their rounds and upload them via Twitch or Youtube within 24 hours of completing their round

    2. Before starting their round the video MUST show the Players Ball Setting and Clubset Settings for EVERY club.

    3. Videos MAY be recorded at double speed and lower quality to reduce upload times. However the video stream MUST be of a quality good enough that Ball, Clubset Details and general play is viewable and able to be assessed for any breaches of guidelines.

    4. A link to your uploaded video/past broadcast must be put in the relevant tournament forum thread to allow Players and Board members to verify your round


    5. There are multiple software options for recording your gameplay. The common one used by many Players is the OBS software, which as well as making recordings to your computer, would also allow to you to stream your rounds live for all to see. Full instructions describing how to setup the OBS software can be found here:




    6. If the settings from the above thread do not work sufficiently for your hardware/internet speed, please read through the settings guide in the link below as OBS software has a variety of settings that can be changed to hopefully allow live streaming and direct uploading to Twitch, all be it at a lower quality

    http://help.twitch.tv/customer/porta...aster-software

    7 - Penalty - Anyone who fails to upload their round within 24 hours shall be removed from the Tournament. If you believe you will be unable to upload do to issues outside of your control please contact The Board to discuss other arrangements. Failure to post a link in the forum thread may also result in removal from the tournament, so don't forget.

    8. - Reporting - If when viewing another Players uploaded video you spot what you believe to be a breach of any of these guidelines you are to report it to The Board, giving the Players Name, a link to the video, the breach you wish to report, and the time that the proposed breach occurs.



    Gameplay Format

    1. Tournaments will be either set in 2-4 Rounds for each Event. Matches will be created on Wednesday for 2 Round Tournament, and Monday for Majors. Invitations, sent directly to your Optishot and notified via Email, will go out on Thursday for 2 Round, and Tuesday for Majors, so you can join the matches that were created in Optishot Online Room. Please Pay attention to the Round you enter. TourRD1A means round 1 first group. TourRD1B means round 1 second group and so on.

    2. 2 Round Tournaments will begin on Thursday, and 4 Round Majors will start on Tuesday, both Tournaments will End Sunday Night at 10PM EST, all rounds need to be completed so Tournament can be close out. Invites however may go out earlier but the dates for each tournament will be published in the tournament specific thread on these forums. If all Rounds are not completed then a Player will be given a final score of DNF and place last in the Event.

    3. Once you begin a Round you must complete that Round. If you exit the Round before completion you will be disqualified from the Tournament. However if this is due to circumstance beyond your control, ie power cut or software error, this will be dealt with on a case by case basis by the Board, using the Video Recording/Streaming of the event as evidence


    ****************** Scorecard


    1. After accepting your invite and when starting your round on Optishot you must also select Play Round for the corresponding round on the My Tournaments tab on the ****************** website

    2. Scores for all Rounds will be entered in Live format. Entry will be done after completion of each hole and player must enter score the for each on the website. This will give players the opportunity to know where they sit during game play and give live in running scores


    3. All scorecards will be verified and any scorecard that is inaccurate is subject to a 2 stroke penalty for EACH Entry that is incorrect. If it is found that the entry was done on purpose it will result in disqualification from the Tournament
    .

    Handicapping

    1. The ****************** website carrys out automatic handicapping of players based on scores players acheive in completed rounds. However it needs 4 completed rounds worth of data to complete. In order to speed up the process slightly once a player has completed one Tournament a manual assessment of a players handicap will be carried out and they will be assigned an conservative handicap for the next tournament. Once the 2nd tournament has been completed the system should then have enough data to give a Player his automatic handicap. Details of how the Automatic Handicapping System works can be found here

    http://www.******************/info.html

    2. Adjustments to this handicap can also be manually made and currently The Optishot Online Tour does not allow negative handicaps. Because of this the lowest handicap player will always play off of an index of 0. If the System allocated handicap was -4, then that player, and all others will have their handicaps raised by 4 strokes.

    Eg. All player have completed a minimum of 4 rounds and System has assigned them a Handicap of -

    Player 1: Handicap -4
    Player 2: Handicap 2
    Player 3: Handicap 10

    As The Optishot Tour doesn't allow negative handicaps every Player will have 4 strokes added to their Handicap so the for the next tournament:

    Player 1: Handicap 0
    Player 2: Handicap 6
    Player 3: Handicap 14

    A video showing the process is found here




    3. This system is under constant review and possible to change so please keep up to date with the current system discussion on these forums.

    http://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum/...ot-online-tour



    Please read fully and understand rules above, ensure you have the OBS recording software installed and tested, and familiarise yourself with both the Optishot Software, The ****************** website and these forums

    Once you are fully setup and ready to take part in an event, have completed the necessary Clubset Settings, have Screen Recording Software in place, and are fully familiar with all the above Rules and guideline please post below that you have read, fully understood and agree to comply with all the above.

    Welcome to the Optishot Online Tour
    Last edited by JohnMeyer; 01-09-2015, 06:08 PM.

  • #31
    Proposed Guidelines edit completed to include handicapping, change of language referecne trajectory settings and more information regarding video. I have only included the OBS guide as other software has not been tested to work and so wouldn't want to advise the use of other software as it is untested.

    If people find OBS doesn't work for them due to whatever reason then that is something that would have to be address on a case by case basis

    Please review the opening post and again if any issues or feedback lets get them ironed out so the Board can decide if to approve the guidelines ready for next season

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    • #32
      John Just read them and looks pretty good,

      On Recordings what are we asking for minimum screenshot but can include more???? That needs to be in there as well...

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      • #33
        I think we can only ask for capture of game itself as minimum requirement. Even that is probably stretching it for some... Great work on this thread by the way.

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        • #34
          Currently the guideline is that they must simply record there gameplay and store it on their local PC as a minimum requirement. This is the least strain on the PC and web connection and the simplest

          I think on the rare occasion that a round required verification for whatever reason then at least the person with the poor upload speed or limited data allowance would have to upload only that round and not every round they do

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          • #35
            Ideally rounds would be available for review either on twitch (archived) or uploaded to youtube.

            It was brought up in one of the threads - if the rounds are not available for review, how would we know if people who score poorly or are short hitters are abiding by the rules? If I recall correctly the counter to that was that the handicap would sort it out in the long run, however I think it would be much more simple if the rounds were just available for review. Having the rounds available for review could prevent any animosity between players who wish to review another's particular round, as seen between CatMan and myself the last couple days.

            If we say for example that -20 wins a tournament, is it not in our best interest to randomly check players who shoot -10 -15 -5 0 ? Or do we only care about winners or those who score low?

            OBS is a low resource piece of software that will automatically upload to twitch. You do not need to have twitch open and streaming for the recording to be uploaded. So there really are no additional resources required other than OptiShot2 and OBS. Once the round is completed or uploaded it then becomes available for any member to review at anytime (until it drops from the archiving on twitch 30 days I think). This effectively allows us all to police each other and should take some of the work load off of the board, not to mention gives the membership a way to monitor the board.

            I believe transparency is the best route.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Buckeye View Post
              Ideally rounds would be available for review either on twitch (archived) or uploaded to youtube.

              It was brought up in one of the threads - if the rounds are not available for review, how would we know if people who score poorly or are short hitters are abiding by the rules? If I recall correctly the counter to that was that the handicap would sort it out in the long run, however I think it would be much more simple if the rounds were just available for review. Having the rounds available for review could prevent any animosity between players who wish to review another's particular round, as seen between CatMan and myself the last couple days.

              If we say for example that -20 wins a tournament, is it not in our best interest to randomly check players who shoot -10 -15 -5 0 ? Or do we only care about winners or those who score low?

              OBS is a low resource piece of software that will automatically upload to twitch. You do not need to have twitch open and streaming for the recording to be uploaded. So there really are no additional resources required other than OptiShot2 and OBS. Once the round is completed or uploaded it then becomes available for any member to review at anytime (until it drops from the archiving on twitch 30 days I think). This effectively allows us all to police each other and should take some of the work load off of the board, not to mention gives the membership a way to monitor the board.

              I believe transparency is the best route.
              I would agree with Buckeye on this, if we are going to have recordings as part of guidelines they should be available...

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              • #37
                I would also add that any player that sees a rule being violated should refer it to the Board for review. Let the Board handle it to maintain good order within threads and forum.. We all are seeing to much bantering going on back and forth between players, no need for this.. And I am not talking about just me and Buckeye.. We need to handle Rules violations in an appropriate manner, and try to do our best to maintain a level of peace on this site..
                Last edited by CatMan; 01-06-2015, 02:24 PM.

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                • #38
                  I think with a few Touch ups, I see a good Merger with Drafted Proposed Outline with the current Guidelines in Place. As soon as touch ups are added we can present to Board for Review... It would be great to have these in place before 2nd Season Start.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CatMan View Post
                    I would also add that any player that sees a rule being violated should refer it to the Board for review. Let the Board handle it to maintain good order within threads and forum.. We all are seeing to much bantering going on back and forth between players, no need for this.. And I am not talking about just me and Buckeye.. We need to handle Rules violations in an appropriate manner, and try to do our best to maintain a level of peace on this site..
                    Agree completely.

                    I am not advocating for players calling players out. I am only advocating that players rounds be available for review by all other players.

                    Yes, if a problem is spotted on another players round it should be brought to the board to investigate. I think once the board is finished investigating they may want to issue a public statement if there was a penalty enforced. If the board deems no penalty is necessary, I would think they would at least respond to the individual who spotted the issue privately to let them know it was investigated and no penalty will be brought forth because.......and then give a reason.

                    Basically as a player it would be nice to know the board takes our issues (good or bad) in to consideration.

                    I would also assume any rule violation that a player notices would be called on themselves, much like real life. For example, if I am playing my round and suddenly on hole 10 I notice that I have been defaulted back to "foam ball" like we experienced a week or two ago, that is certainly something I would bring to the board and let the board determine if that either had any positive effect on my round or was an honest accident that could be waived.

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                    • #40
                      A separate issues (sort of the same) is putting.

                      Are we requiring a ball be struck while putting? I'm guessing yes and have been playing that way since I was able to strike a real ball, however I am beginning to understand the issues that were raised in the putting thread a couple weeks ago. When I hit a ball with my putter I seem to go off line a lot, especially in t he 4-8 foot range. Speed does not seem to be an issue with me at 100%, but the line certainly is. If I putt with no ball, I seem pretty accurate anywhere in side 15 feet. I don't know if the issue is the ball "slowly" rolling of the front sensor or if my putter is actually twisting some striking a ball and is not obviously with no ball. I tend to putt and have a pretty good short game all around in the real world, so I am not sure.

                      Just to clarity, are we requiring you strike a ball (if that is your settings) while putting or is putting with no ball ok?

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                      • #41
                        Yes Exactly Buck, I think what you outlined is a perfect way on dealing with it, but the violators Name does not need to be mentioned but how it was handled, I am not saying you were implying that.
                        Last edited by CatMan; 01-06-2015, 03:17 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Buckeye View Post
                          A separate issues (sort of the same) is putting.

                          Are we requiring a ball be struck while putting? I'm guessing yes and have been playing that way since I was able to strike a real ball, however I am beginning to understand the issues that were raised in the putting thread a couple weeks ago. When I hit a ball with my putter I seem to go off line a lot, especially in t he 4-8 foot range. Speed does not seem to be an issue with me at 100%, but the line certainly is. If I putt with no ball, I seem pretty accurate anywhere in side 15 feet. I don't know if the issue is the ball "slowly" rolling of the front sensor or if my putter is actually twisting some striking a ball and is not obviously with no ball. I tend to putt and have a pretty good short game all around in the real world, so I am not sure.

                          Just to clarity, are we requiring you strike a ball (if that is your settings) while putting or is putting with no ball ok?
                          Not sure on this one, I know that when I have inches left I just tap it in.. But on the bigger scale of what you are asking its a good question... would be interesting to here some responses to this...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by CatMan View Post
                            Not sure on this one, I know that when I have inches left I just tap it in..
                            Exactly. I do the same. Is that a penalty we need to call on ourselves moving forward?

                            I think now that we have the woods situation figured out we might want to discuss this and I like definitive:

                            "always putt with your ball setting - if playing real or foam must always hit a ball" or "No ball is needed during putting".

                            I don't like a "ball must be used unless inside 2 feet" or something like that.

                            Just my two cents

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Buckeye View Post
                              A separate issues (sort of the same) is putting.

                              Are we requiring a ball be struck while putting? I'm guessing yes and have been playing that way since I was able to strike a real ball, however I am beginning to understand the issues that were raised in the putting thread a couple weeks ago. When I hit a ball with my putter I seem to go off line a lot, especially in t he 4-8 foot range. Speed does not seem to be an issue with me at 100%, but the line certainly is. If I putt with no ball, I seem pretty accurate anywhere in side 15 feet. I don't know if the issue is the ball "slowly" rolling of the front sensor or if my putter is actually twisting some striking a ball and is not obviously with no ball. I tend to putt and have a pretty good short game all around in the real world, so I am not sure.

                              Just to clarity, are we requiring you strike a ball (if that is your settings) while putting or is putting with no ball ok?
                              I guess this is a question worth visiting. I haven't noticed any difference in face angle in using a ball or not, no matter the distance. Maybe I just haven't paid enough attention. I'll do some testing myself. I many times won't use a ball inside 5 or 6 feet for the simple fact of saving myself from having to constantly be replacing golf balls in my feeder or bending over a lot. If I've left my initial putt short/long, I will typically just knock it in without a ball. Worth looking at, I'm just not sure it provides an advantage either way. I'll test some myself tonight.
                              Last edited by Vincent_Vega; 01-06-2015, 05:28 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Vincent_Vega View Post

                                I guess this is a question worth visiting. I haven't noticed any difference in face angle in using a ball or not, no matter the distance. Maybe I just haven't paid enough attention. I'll do some testing myself. I many times won't use a ball inside 5 or 6 feet for the simple fact of saving myself from having to constantly be replacing golf balls in my feeder or bending over a lot. If I've left my initial putt short/long, I will typically just knock it in without a ball. Worth looking at, I'm just not sure it provides an advantage either way. I'll test some myself tonight.
                                I usually do the same, but lately I have been putting more and more with a ball. What I've noticed is that my face angle with a ball seems to be open 1.5 to 2 degrees. I don't know if that is the result of hitting a ball or if the sensor is misreading.

                                Regardless, I know a lot of us tend to get "lazy" when putting and simply tap those in with out a ball. I guess my question revolved more around the rules. The new guidelines state you must play with the ball you selected and must use a ball if your set up allow, I am only asking if we are going to take this all the way to the hole as it is written or do we want a "lazy man" clause (ball must be used tee to green) for example written in the final version.

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