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    TGC Tour Rules

    Given the increase in new players and how much my inbox is blowing up, it's good to post the rules again. Guys, please message me when you see something you don't like. I look into every single one. PM mthunt

    First rewinds. I have a report that tells me every single repeat yardage taken on tour along with the data. It's very easy for me to see rewinds. Rewinds are only for equipment failure. It's not hard to tell if someone had equipment failure. Rewinds are not for "I think I chipped it farther than that" or "I didn't see the slope behind the hole" or "I know my 7 iron goes 165 and my skytrak said 150". Suck it up and accept the equipment you have. If you hit a drive that had 250mph ball speed your equipment failed. These need to be obvious guys. I've added strokes to scores to prevent someone not playing by the rules from winning.

    For rewinds, a yardage is repeated. It's also repeated for stroke and distance so you need to check the score card. 5 recorded shots and a 4 on the card is a rewind.

    Next one that is coming up. Putting settings. If you look at recorded shots and never see a putt recorded under a certain distance, guess what the gimmies are set to.

    Next one is boost. If you see a drive that carried 250 on a 500 yard hole and the next shot is 175, it didn't roll 75 yards. Boost. It's simple to check these things. Saying I live in Denver or Alberta is fine for you and your buddies boosting away but the tour stops are played a max of 5%.


    Have fun and play by the rules.


    TGC Tour Rules

    Boost and other shot mods:
    +/- 5%. Most ProTee/ TGC supported systems have the ability to adjust your settings. This is from having sensor mats and tweaking them. For tour play, you are allowed to adjust any setting by 5%. This means you can add 5% max boost and decrease 5% spin. Believe me, 5% isn't going to change anyone's life. A 20 yard draw would draw 19 yards with 5% adjustment.

    Putting:
    The standard putting setting was 2. We set it this way because we believed the GC2 would perform fairly at that setting. We recently changed it to allow you to increase the setting so the ball will only go straight. It's your choice what you use. I use 2. Move the slider all the way over and aim with the pointer only if you choose.

    Gimmies:
    You have to set your system to a max of 1.8 yards. This is done by setting the Gimmie Setting to "Gimmie". If you want no gimmies, knock yourself out.

    Wind:
    We play without wind. You must as well.

    Shot Recording:
    Turn it on. You'll see SR in the standings. An X means it's off. We contact those who have it off but sometimes someone that isn't on the form enters a tournament. If it's off, you won't be included in any rankings.

    Rewinds:
    Obviously a big one. Some systems give errors and strange things happen. Here's some examples:

    Allowed:
    -A ball was in the FOV of your GC2 and you rolled another couple of balls near by and it read a 2 foot put.
    -Your protee said the ball you hit in the middle of your screen went 25 degrees right.
    -Your GSX said the ball went 20 yards and it was flushed into the screen.
    I think you get it.

    Not allowed:
    -Your putt lipped out but you think you hit it straight
    -Your bunker shot didn't clear the lip but you think it should have
    -You sliced it and it's behind a tree
    -You hit a 3 wood over water and it didn't make it but you once hit a 3 wood far enough to carry
    -You hit a 5 iron and it rolled over the green but you hit a 5 iron outside last week and it stopped
    -You hit it in the water and the game put you all the way back where you hit it from. Too bad.

    Have fun and play by the rules.

    mthunt

    My Courses:
    World Par 3's by mthunt
    Toronto GC (L) mthunt
    Burlington G&CC by mthunt
    Weston G&CC by mthunt
    London Hunt Club L mthunt
    Park CC Lidar mthunt
    Sunningdale GC Robinson L
    Sunningdale GC Thompson L
    Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
    Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
    The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
    The National GC L mthunt
    Mississaugua GC L mthunt
    Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
    Markland Woods CC mthunt
    Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
    Magna GC L mthunt
    Barrie CC L mthunt
    mthunt Range

  • #2
    How exactly are we to use Boost? You mentioned Denver and Alberta, im assuming because of elevation? In Vegas we are 2000ft above sea level. Should +/- of boost be used for where you live? How do we know?

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    • FaultyClubs
      FaultyClubs commented
      Editing a comment
      Altitude has no effect on launch monitor readings so is irrelevant for sim play. Everyone gets the same results regardless of their actual location.

    • Kenny Zawodny
      Kenny Zawodny commented
      Editing a comment
      But in the sky trak options it has a place for you to enter Altitude and Humidity. So i assumed it took it into account otherwise why ask?

    • FaultyClubs
      FaultyClubs commented
      Editing a comment
      Altitude or humidity affects the flight algorithm not the ball parameters measured by the LM. TGC uses its own flight algorithm and is the same for everyone.

  • #3
    Originally posted by Kenny Zawodny View Post
    How exactly are we to use Boost? You mentioned Denver and Alberta, im assuming because of elevation? In Vegas we are 2000ft above sea level. Should +/- of boost be used for where you live? How do we know?
    What I said was living in Alberta or Denver is NOT a reason to add boost on the tour. If a guy on the PGA tour lives in Denver he doesn't get to use a forward tee on tour to make up for how far he hits it where he lives.

    On tour you can use 5% max on any settings. Search for Skytrak settings. It's been posted how to adjust them.
    My Courses:
    World Par 3's by mthunt
    Toronto GC (L) mthunt
    Burlington G&CC by mthunt
    Weston G&CC by mthunt
    London Hunt Club L mthunt
    Park CC Lidar mthunt
    Sunningdale GC Robinson L
    Sunningdale GC Thompson L
    Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
    Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
    The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
    The National GC L mthunt
    Mississaugua GC L mthunt
    Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
    Markland Woods CC mthunt
    Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
    Magna GC L mthunt
    Barrie CC L mthunt
    mthunt Range

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    • #4
      Hello!

      Just thought I'd say hi somewhere on here since I haven't been on in....a year?

      Kids...and work. But looking forward to finally dust off the GC2HMT and stop sucking at golf again.

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      • #5
        Hi goatbarn. Welcome back. Scores are lower now.
        My Courses:
        World Par 3's by mthunt
        Toronto GC (L) mthunt
        Burlington G&CC by mthunt
        Weston G&CC by mthunt
        London Hunt Club L mthunt
        Park CC Lidar mthunt
        Sunningdale GC Robinson L
        Sunningdale GC Thompson L
        Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
        Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
        The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
        The National GC L mthunt
        Mississaugua GC L mthunt
        Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
        Markland Woods CC mthunt
        Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
        Magna GC L mthunt
        Barrie CC L mthunt
        mthunt Range

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        • #6
          mthunt Thanks for helping keep everyone honest. Now that my CCE tennis elbow is getting better, I plan on playing the tournaments more regularly.

          One question though, I have a hard time getting approach shots to ever stay on the green (anything less than an 8 iron will roll off the green), is that common or is my launch angle that bad?

          Thanks again.

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          • #7
            Post your numbers and hardware and I’ll let you know. Post the following:
            -hardware
            -settings for green speed and firmness
            -ball speed, lunch angle and back spin with a 7 iron
            My Courses:
            World Par 3's by mthunt
            Toronto GC (L) mthunt
            Burlington G&CC by mthunt
            Weston G&CC by mthunt
            London Hunt Club L mthunt
            Park CC Lidar mthunt
            Sunningdale GC Robinson L
            Sunningdale GC Thompson L
            Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
            Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
            The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
            The National GC L mthunt
            Mississaugua GC L mthunt
            Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
            Markland Woods CC mthunt
            Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
            Magna GC L mthunt
            Barrie CC L mthunt
            mthunt Range

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            • #8
              Originally posted by mthunt View Post
              Hi goatbarn. Welcome back. Scores are lower now.
              Lol, sounds good. My scores will be higher.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by mthunt View Post

                Gimmies:
                You have to set your system to a max of 1.8 yards. This is done by setting the Gimmie Setting to "Gimmie". If you want no gimmies, knock yourself out.
                Aren’t gimmes set to 2 yards or 1.8 meters? I hope so or I’ve been doing it wrong.

                Thanks for posting this. It is good to review these rules. I had no idea about the putting rules and have been killing myself to try and correct the erratic putting issues with my GC2. I hit a short straight putt to the point on my screen and it reads 3 degrees right or left... really killed my enjoyment of sim golf... anyway it seems it was my mat (posted about it elsewhere) and I started putting short putts off a 1x2 strip of putting turf, but it’s a hassle. I may up the forgiveness a little to experiment where an 8 foot putt reads straight when hit straight.

                Some mention no GC2 misreads. For me, it seems if the sun is at the right (or wrong) spot I can have some issues. At least that is my assumption. Please let me know if anyone else has experienced this - I hit a shot and nothing happens. I go to get my ball and put it back down and just as I’m about to swing (or mid-swing), the shot begins. I assume something just slowed up the processing. Once that I recall the shot was way right even though I hit the aiming point on the screen. Anyway, thought I’d share those experiences. They’ve happened only a few times in a year and a half so nothing major. Just weird.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Godfather View Post

                  Aren’t gimmes set to 2 yards or 1.8 meters? I hope so or I’ve been doing it wrong.

                  Thanks for posting this. It is good to review these rules. I had no idea about the putting rules and have been killing myself to try and correct the erratic putting issues with my GC2. I hit a short straight putt to the point on my screen and it reads 3 degrees right or left... really killed my enjoyment of sim golf... anyway it seems it was my mat (posted about it elsewhere) and I started putting short putts off a 1x2 strip of putting turf, but it’s a hassle. I may up the forgiveness a little to experiment where an 8 foot putt reads straight when hit straight.

                  Some mention no GC2 misreads. For me, it seems if the sun is at the right (or wrong) spot I can have some issues. At least that is my assumption. Please let me know if anyone else has experienced this - I hit a shot and nothing happens. I go to get my ball and put it back down and just as I’m about to swing (or mid-swing), the shot begins. I assume something just slowed up the processing. Once that I recall the shot was way right even though I hit the aiming point on the screen. Anyway, thought I’d share those experiences. They’ve happened only a few times in a year and a half so nothing major. Just weird.
                  Yes. Setting it to "Gimmie" is about 6 feet. I suggest you use the 0HA putting setting if you're getting erratic readings on putting. It makes every putt go straight by only using ball speed. It takes that problem away and it's allowed.

                  As for what you're experiencing with short putting it's likely because of your mat. This came up a while ago. The GC2 measures the ball roll for I think 2 feet. If the ball goes left or right in that 2 feet the reading is off. I've experienced this. To fix it I made sure my mat is perfect in front of where I putt short putts. I roll the ball to the front of the FOV then putt. It helps. I also tested this with a piece of plywood. With 0HA putting it doesn't matter.

                  I have no sun in my room but when I use my rig outside sometimes it's hard to get the light green depending on sunlight so I'd say sun causes issues.
                  My Courses:
                  World Par 3's by mthunt
                  Toronto GC (L) mthunt
                  Burlington G&CC by mthunt
                  Weston G&CC by mthunt
                  London Hunt Club L mthunt
                  Park CC Lidar mthunt
                  Sunningdale GC Robinson L
                  Sunningdale GC Thompson L
                  Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
                  Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
                  The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
                  The National GC L mthunt
                  Mississaugua GC L mthunt
                  Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
                  Markland Woods CC mthunt
                  Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
                  Magna GC L mthunt
                  Barrie CC L mthunt
                  mthunt Range

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                  • Jwheels9876
                    Jwheels9876 commented
                    Editing a comment
                    I agree. I was seeing crazy numbers like 5 degrees one way or another and I thought it may have been the new flash I put in but it was my mat. Hitting the irons was leaving little indentations and the putts were thrown offline if I didnt realize I was putting the ball behind them and then rolling them through. Learned my lesson......

                • #11
                  I'm torn on using boost. My garage ceiling is too low (9 foot) therefore its risky to use my driver. I tee off with a 3 wood and average about 240ish.. maybe 260 if I pound it. I have considered changing my driver boost to 5% and just selecting driver when teeing off with the 3wood but not using that boost from the fairway.

                  Regarding rewinds I admit to having 2 or 3 a few tournaments ago when I was struggling with the short game chipping mode in SkyTrak. I have since turned that setting back ON and accept that all of my chips will run out.

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