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  • SkyTrak's piss poor customer support over the subscription change

    I just got off the phone with SkyTrak's poor excuse for a customer service department. I've been so pissed about this change that I really would like to return my SkyTrak, but I bought it through intheholegolf.com. I did email them asking about returns, but I doubt they will give me one.

    So I figured since I bought The Golf Club game through SkyTrak based on the fact that it would run on my already existing GIP, and SkyTrak changed the deal less than 2 weeks after I made my purchase, I feel that I am due a refund. So I called SkyTrak....

    The customer service rep I spoke with was friendly, but kept telling me that the software purchase was non-refundable. I explained to her the "deal" I made with SkyTrak when I purchased the software, that it would run on my current GIP. She explained to me that they upgraded my package, and I now have access to play WGT. I asked her why I would want to play a simulation that is inferior, and that I could not possibly play as I do not own any Apple devices. She continued to spout that the software purchase was non-refundable, and I told her I absolutely would agree with that, had I received the deal I signed up for. So I asked to speak with a supervisor. It took a couple times of her coming back and explaining how they "upgraded me", and me telling her to get a supervisor before I was able to speak to one.

    The supervisor was even more less helpful. He kept telling me how it was a "subscription", and I kept telling him that yes, the subscription I signed up for was the $99 GIP, NOT the $199 P&I. Again, I was told how I now have access to WGT, and once again, I had to explain no Apple devices, WGT is a superior product. I told him I either wanted the deal I signed up for, or a refund on my purchase. He told me "there is nothing on the web site that says the terms will not change", and I said there was nothing on the website that said the terms WERE subject to change, and to please honor my deal or give me a refund.

    He kept telling me how they upgraded my package, and I asked him what happens at the end of the year, and I do not want the $199/year P&I package, just the $99/year GIP. I don't get access to TGC anymore.

    So now I am going to explore other options. I am first going to dispute the charge with Visa under the "products or services received not as advertised", and I am going to start looking at Florida consumer protection laws as well.

    Skytrak, you could have done this different so many other ways.


  • #2
    Take them to a small claims court if you have the time to do it properly

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    • #3
      I set up a Facebook Group for SkyTrak users, please join so we can get more attention from corporate: https://www.facebook.com/groups/skytrakusers/
      - Ron at GunghoGolf.com - we specialize in TrackMan, FlightScope, Foresight, Uneekor, SkyTrak, Garmin, Bushnell, TGC, and E6 Connect. 512-861-4151 or email hello AT gunghogolf.com.

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      • #4
        I'm not a lawyer, nor do I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. However, with that being said as POOR as the decision was on SkyTrak's part to do this the deal that was purchased was only for one year, so they will be honoring your purchase. I don't think there is any claim that the terms and conditions are the same outside of that one-year time frame. So outside of the HORRIBLE word of mouth the company has already gotten, and I'm sure is going to continue, I'm not sure they are "legally" doing anything outside of what they can do.

        It's not right. It's HORRIBLE customer service and in the end will come back to hurt them I think, especially because they are pushing this product as an "in-home" sit around the house and have a good time type of launch monitor. They might as well stop spending those advertising dollars right now because the cheapest plan available now is $450 a year unless you want to make a large one-time investment to purchase a software that will be useless outside of spending $200 a year. Just a TERRIBLE decision on their part.

        I'll be interested to see where this goes, but if I'm placing a bet I'm going to say SkyTrak "wins" this battle but has dealt themselves a HUGE self-inflicted wound in the war for customers.

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        • #5
          I certainly will no longer be recommending this product to any of my golf groups with this move; I was definitely talking them up a couple of weeks ago. Instead will advise all to stay away from this company entirely.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MainStGolf View Post
            I'm not a lawyer, nor do I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. However, with that being said as POOR as the decision was on SkyTrak's part to do this the deal that was purchased was only for one year, so they will be honoring your purchase. I don't think there is any claim that the terms and conditions are the same outside of that one-year time frame. So outside of the HORRIBLE word of mouth the company has already gotten, and I'm sure is going to continue, I'm not sure they are "legally" doing anything outside of what they can do.

            It's not right. It's HORRIBLE customer service and in the end will come back to hurt them I think, especially because they are pushing this product as an "in-home" sit around the house and have a good time type of launch monitor. They might as well stop spending those advertising dollars right now because the cheapest plan available now is $450 a year unless you want to make a large one-time investment to purchase a software that will be useless outside of spending $200 a year. Just a TERRIBLE decision on their part.

            I'll be interested to see where this goes, but if I'm placing a bet I'm going to say SkyTrak "wins" this battle but has dealt themselves a HUGE self-inflicted wound in the war for customers.
            What SkyTrak is NOT honoring is that the subscription required for simulation use was the GIP package. I had already purchased that as I wanted the driving range in SkyTrak. Since I already had the GIP, when I purchased TGC software (that said it required the GIP package), that all I should have needed. Now they switch it to you need the Play & Improve package to access the simulation software. That is the only change they made. No improvements in the packages themselves, just the need to purchase the higher subscription package to access the software you purchased from SkyTrak.

            My point is, I would have never purchased the "lifetime" TGC software had I known I would have to pay an extra $100/year to access it! When I purchased it, it was supposed to run on what I already had (GIP). 7 days later, it changes. It's simply a bait and switch tactic.

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            • Nick Friling
              Nick Friling commented
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              "My point is, I would have never purchased the "lifetime" TGC software had I known I would have to pay an extra $100/year to access it! When I purchased it, it was supposed to run on what I already had (GIP). "

              This is very frustrating. I'm in the exact same boat.

            • James James
              James James commented
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              I agree. I think they could change the terms for new subs and renewals but not for those who have paid for a service, in this case a service which has almost 12 months remaining...

            • MainStGolf
              MainStGolf commented
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              Lgnir I fully agree with you that it was a BEYOND cheap move. I'm just saying I don't know that there is anything that can be done about it. If you've read the other thread people are talking about lawsuits and what not. And I can certainly understand the frustration. Customer service is just about dead in this country.

          • #7
            Your best bet is to dispute your Visa charges. I have to say that in my experience, I believe Visa tends to favor the consumer in these kinds of disputes. I have disputer 3 or 4 big ticket items over the years and have won each time. In your case, when you write your letter, make sure you point out that you are dealing with a subscription not an item that has been used or damaged in any way. When Visa understands that the merchant is not out of any actual product that are much more lenient to the consumer. Also point out that you were mislead that your current subscription level would always give you access to your lifetime purchase of TGC.

            I think you have a good case and will be all right.

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            • moadhia
              moadhia commented
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              I concur , fight it out. I am doing something similar with credit card company. Total BS !!

            • Lgnir
              Lgnir commented
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              Yes! I work for a financial institution and that is exactly what I did yesterday. I disputed the charge under "Merchandise or Service received not as described". This will probably work for me, as I just made my purchase Jan 28th, and disputes must be within the last 60 days. However, that does NOTHING for all of the people that previously purchased TGC (or any other sim software through SkyTrak) and then got hosed by this "bait and switch" scheme.
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