SkyTrak questions--using it at outside range 1st time

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  • dmoore9003
    Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 30

    #1

    SkyTrak questions--using it at outside range 1st time

    I took my unit to the range at my club today. I was getting some weird numbers...one drive would be 111 mph SS, the next was 50??? Any chance it would pick up the guy hitting behind me?

    I was hitting off real grass--level lie--but it was a little windy.

    Sometimes the iPad would not pick up the swing...but when I tapped the Skytak logo, it showed it.
  • DirtyGarry24
    Advanced Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 486

    #2
    In my experience getting any reading off of real grass would be a shocker. I thought it was damn near impossible? Too much going on at impact to trust any of the numbers. The best you can do outside is a hitting mat and get lucky with the lighting.

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    • jrz
      Advanced Member
      • Oct 2015
      • 375

      #3
      The spectrum of light from the sun causes issues with the ST. It uses infrared cameras and the sun puts out plenty of infrared light, which makes it nearly impossible to get good readings in the sun. Even if you are outside in the shade you will still have these problems if the sun is your light source.

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      • AndyF
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 114

        #4
        Originally posted by jrz View Post
        The spectrum of light from the sun causes issues with the ST. It uses infrared cameras and the sun puts out plenty of infrared light, which makes it nearly impossible to get good readings in the sun. Even if you are outside in the shade you will still have these problems if the sun is your light source.
        Really...as I use mine exclusively outside pretty much every day and have never experienced problems getting perfect readings. I've played with it in every set of lighting conditions from full sunshine to complete darkness and i get consistent results and virtually no mis reads

        Andy

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        • doublebogey
          doublebogey commented
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          Yeah like AndyF, I use my ST exclusively outdoors (hitting off mat) with no problems reading shots. I've even taken my ST to range and hit off grass before and it was ok (not a complete failure). I think sunlights are fine, just make sure sun is shining from behind the ST (i.e., not directly into the ST and its lens).

        • jrz
          jrz commented
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          That's the first time I have read about success using it outdoors. I stand corrected.
      • Dave Lee
        Member
        • Mar 2017
        • 44

        #5
        Originally posted by dmoore9003 View Post
        I took my unit to the range at my club today. I was getting some weird numbers...one drive would be 111 mph SS, the next was 50??? Any chance it would pick up the guy hitting behind me?

        I was hitting off real grass--level lie--but it was a little windy.

        Sometimes the iPad would not pick up the swing...but when I tapped the Skytak logo, it showed it.
        It's also worth mentioning that skytrak measures ballspeed and not swing speed. It does some math to get swing speed. For example, when I use Qolf balls vs foam vs real..the swing speed estimates are all very different.

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        • Justin General
          Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 36

          #6
          The only time I have issues with sunlight is when the sun itself has a direct line of sight to the skytrak camera (with no shadows or overcast in between).
          For example, late afternoon and skytrak camera is facing west.

          Other than that, I have no issues in sunlight with or without shade. Hope that helps.

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          • ladfromaus
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2017
            • 5

            #7
            I'm looking to try mine outside here soon. I was wondering how you all deal with the divot issue? I can't see being able to take more than a shot or two before i need to move the unit. Or does everyone just use mats on the range?

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            • Morini
              Super Member
              • Dec 2017
              • 742

              #8
              I plan to hit off fairway as soon as weather allows. Hopefully it will read properly. It will have to be moved every shot because of divots. But I am only hitting a few because I want data on how VLA, spin and ball speed compares to when hitting off a mat. I am certain that identical swing off mat will launch higher and with less spin.

              As a matter of fact, for those of us using ST for game improvement, I wonder if it would be possible/feasible to include a "normalize" option to account for hitting off mat. The ball launch data would be adjusted by taking a customizable factor for hitting off mat so that carry distances more closely match on course results. Right now, I have very accurate ST carry numbers for my wedges, but I assume those will be different once I get on the course.

              Anyhow, with the small ball placement zone, I don't think practicing off grass is practical.
              Last edited by Morini; 01-26-2018, 12:04 AM.

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              • davidgolfer
                Member
                • Dec 2016
                • 81

                #9
                I was never able to get a reading hitting off a tee box on real grass. Only tried it one day. I was under the impression that it would not work on real grass.

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                • trumb1mj
                  Advanced Member
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 287

                  #10
                  I use mine exclusively outdoors. Night time use is best but once the sun drops low enough, it works fine. With the sun overhead it really doesn't work great.

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                  • penrose
                    Super Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 754

                    #11
                    I think in general the ST is not great outdoors. Now, I have used mine outdoors in my backyard before - both times it was really nice out. However, I hit off a mat, and was in the shade. This where the skytrak app and WGT working off the iPAD is useful.

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