New User - WGT frustrating Grrr...

[Davidmcc]

So I bought the Skytrak deal last month with the WGT software and have been getting used to some of the peculiarities of using the device in my garage hitting station - which has a full-sized professional range mat (bought form a golf course) and a large net. I also have a doppler radar that I have used for swing speed training and I am fairly used to my gapping throughout my bag out on the course. The issue is that I have is that overall my distances are short and the swing speeds are slower - compared to the doppler. But most if not all of my (good) shots are somewhat playable on the SkyTrak range. Even wedges are maybe short - but the shot shape is there. When I switch over to play a course on WGT - the shots are all over the place and it just gets worse the shorter the clubs and especially from 150 in. Just completely makes this game unplayable and certainly not any fun - when you know you hit a good one - but it registers a duff. I know it is not the setup - because if I switch back to the range in the Skytrak app - it works. Anyone else have this issue with WGT?

The saving grace for the SkyTrak for me is that the shot shape is fairly accurate and since I know that the distances are short compared to the real thing - I can deal with it.

[Wizard of Coz]

It's been years since I had wgt with skytrak. I thought it was great and very repeatable.

[Peteraiden10]

Get fitness golf had demo of it and was a lot better than wgt

[Morini]

A couple of thoughts:

1. Doppler radar reads the fastest moving part of the club head, the toe and generally read 2-3 fast. The ST clubhead speed is a guesstimate and not reliable.

2. Odds are that ST reads ball data accurately, so the short distances are probably not due to ST.

3. Common causes of short distances compared RL are indoor swing, club mat interaction, and overestimated RL distances.

I have never used WGT

[ChadGolf]

Don’t forget altitude for shorter distances compared to outdoor.

[triplebogeysrbetter]

Also, dont forget Inside swing is a real!

[teamacacia]

I never had an issue with WGT on full swing shots in my garage set up, but I did basically stop playing it because of the short game issues (chips running out way beyond real life, etc). That said, I was hitting on the ST at my local GolfTec this past weekend and had some wildly inaccurate shots, but that was in the driving range mode.

Agree with Morini’s #3 for short distances above.

[Davidmcc]

The driver - long iron distances are fine on WGT - but a nice flush 9, full wedge or a clean contact chip/pitch is completely erratic direction wise or read as a complete duff that worms burns. I'm pretty sure I can hit a wedge 50 yards. Just not on WGT.

[doublebogey]

Short pitch or chip w high VLA that hits middle of impact screen seems to read extreme left in terms of HLA on WGT and ST - I don't know why?

[sirish19]

I have had pretty good and accurate readings on WGT. The only real issues have been the really short chips (under 15 yards), shots out of the fringe (whet I might normally be putting), and short sand shots. 40-60 yard chips are usually really accurate. Putting seems to have gotten a lot better. I usually play in practice mode so I can hit a mulligan if I get a really inaccurate read.

[triplebogeysrbetter]

Also, remember its a 100 golf simulator package. You can only expect so much.

[Davidmcc]

Here are some shots comparing how off in speed the Skytrack is and a picture of my garage set up. My swings are fairly consistent with the speed I get on a proper Trackman session(+-2mph) - however as you can see in my home setup I have the SSR back behind the ball so it will not pick up any ball speed data - and that means it is reading slightly slower for my actual swing speed - because it is not picking up the fastest part of the swing which is a few inched up toward the ball. SkyTrak is consistently slower by a lot - which is about what I notice when I get outside and hit on the course. There are 2 driver swings and 1 - 3wood swing (98 mph read as 88) where the placements of the SkyTrak changed to suit the tee being used.

[ajax5184]

Skytrak doesn’t actually measure chs, just backs into it. It should be accurate on ball speed though for your swing speed range though. Based on the ball speed though I would guess skytrak is a lot closer on swing speed than your radar. 110 mph should be a lot higher than 233 carry.

[Davidmcc]

I am well aware that SkyTrak does not measure accurate CHS - but why is it so far off the mark? I have tested this SSR against various Trackman units where I take lessons at GolfTec and it is always within 2-3 mph of the Trackman units. I play golf and hit driver 280+ so If anything - SkyTrack is wrong here. Way wrong. Which makes it a $2K toy IMHO.

[ajax5184]

Maybe a defective unit then? Have you tried the skytrak head to head with trackman? Sorry if my comment came off as rude, that wasn’t my intention.

[Wizard of Coz]

When I look at those numbers 2 things pop out if those are drivers your hitting. Skytrak you have to look at ball speed.
1. Ball speed around 130 will not hit driver 280 unless your ball is bouncing on a cart path, going down hill or down wind. Not enough speed.

2. Driver launch angle of 25-27 degrees is too high. It's like you popped it up.

you can swing a club 120mph but if your strike is poor your not going to maximize your distance.

if you swing 100mph and make a good strike you should have a ball speed approaching 150.
110 mph swing you should be approaching 160 ball speeds and your launch angle should be 12-16 degrees.

your launch angle is ridiculously high and your speed slow

check the top of your driver for sky marks you had to be close to whiffing????

[ajax5184]

Oh yeah hadn’t noticed launch angle, you might be on to something there. That is like wedge launch angle. Maybe the ST is lower than the mat?

[Wizard of Coz]

They have to be pop ups. If his swing speed is over 100 no way will skytrak read 130 ball speed unless he missed it.

His skytrak would have to be leaning more than the leaning tower of pisa to read that LA.

Skytrak toy cmon man hit the ball square man up.

Show me some driver numbers with a normal LA.

[Davidmcc]

The launch angles are ALWAYS like that for me on this machine. I have put this up against a Trackman and it is always way short and way off on ball speed and launch angles. The ball flight is the only thing that is on. Either I have it set up wrong or it is a defective unit. My numbers are not that bad and as I said - I can go out and hit drives 280. My swing speed has always been between 102 with little effort upwards to around - 113 depending on the day. I must have it set up wrong. All of these shots were striped clean center face or I wouldn't have posted them.

The only thing I have never tried is taking it out of the metal case - mostly because i'm afraid the ball is going to bounce back off the net and damage it.

My garage floor is sloped, maybe that is skewing the launch? Seriously my launch angles are crazy on all my clubs and the data does not at all match how I hit out on the course.

[Wizard of Coz]

If your hitting it solid and it's reading a launch angle of 27 with your driver something is wrong with your unit. Call support. Something is definitely wrong. I had skytrak and it wasn't a toy. It was my entry point into the sim world. It was super consistent. I could almost tell you the yard a shot was going to land on based on the strike.

[ajax5184]

Probably worth a shot taking it out of the case at least. I use one of the original plastic cases, so don’t have much experience with the metal ones. I wouldnt think the slope of your floor would be throwing it off , but again it might be worth trying it in a different spot if you can. Are you using the same balls you use on the course? The bright side for you is its still under warranty. If you can’t figure out the issue maybe it’s something skytrak can fix. I personally have had great experience with skytrak support and repair. Just recently had my light curtain fixed and it was a very smooth and fast process.