I have figured out why Skytrak is not selling like hot cakes

[Gazpacho]

A guest has to get comfortable hitting in a closed space which takes time, therefore frustrating. Also, the screen setup is difficult and expensive. While 2k is a great price for what you get, the hurdles mentioned make it hard to multiply. I love mine, but a great screen took months and all guests don’t swing freely until they’ve been over half a dozen times. It takes 6-7 K to get a setup and with the marketing obstacles equals small sales, no trugolf relationship and no updates

[Wizard of Coz]

Hmmmm? So skytrak sales are down?

[Gazpacho]

They sure aren’t up, if they were I believe we’d see updates, trugolf progress and in my large golfing community I’d have heard of at least one other person getting one. Just trying to make sense of it all as to why no one is buying these things and after almost a year of having one, I can see why and I love mine. Niche market...

[JackedUpSwing]

Interesting you make a claim like "Skytrak isn't selling".... Skytraks are by far the most common system on THIS forum. And this is the biggest community for Launch Monitors online....

Just take a look at the numbers of posts in the Skytrak forum versus every other forum on this site... what are you even talking about?

So maybe do a tiny bit of research before making some ridiculous claim.

[GmanJeff]

The OP's assertion is unsupported by any data. That notwithstanding, I'd suggest that sales of all launch monitors are constrained more by cost and space requirements than by anything else. Launch monitors are a luxury item for non-professionals, and it seems reasonable to assume that not every golfer who might like one has the financial means to purchase one, especially when accessories like a mat, net, PC, and possibly a projector and screen are added. Further, not every potentially interested golfer has a suitable space in which to install a simulator. Taking a little time to adapt to swinging indoors, and relatively infrequent updates seem like inconsequential factors in comparison. As an aside, one can enjoyably use a simulator with a laptop screen or PC monitor alone; a projector and projection screen may make things more immersive but are hardly necessities, especially for practice where all you actually need is an ability to see ball flight on a screen and to see the data the program generates about each swing.

[GungHoGolf]

A guest has to get comfortable hitting in a closed space which takes time, therefore frustrating. Also, the screen setup is difficult and expensive. While 2k is a great price for what you get, the hurdles mentioned make it hard to multiply. I love mine, but a great screen took months and all guests don’t swing freely until they’ve been over half a dozen times. It takes 6-7 K to get a setup and with the marketing obstacles equals small sales, no trugolf relationship and no updates

I’m a SkyTrak dealer and run the SkyTrak Users Group on Facebook with over 2,900 members. I can tell you that sales are stronger than ever, and that the vast majority of owners are happy: https://gunghogolf.com/blog/skytrak-owners-happy-poll

Also, it only takes 3-4.5K for a full setup if you DIY, which most of us do. Here’s a guide for the biggest chunk of work:

https://gunghogolf.com/blog/diy-impact-screen-enclosure

[Morini]

Thanks for posting this. I am slowly moving forward with planning my sim. Still haven't made my mind up with regards to garage vs. living room. If I go garage, I will definitely follow your enclosure plans. If living room, will splurge for a retractable sport screen.

Still trying to come up with cost effective flooring solution. For living room it may need to be removable. Thinking about a three mat solution. I have a huge unused birdie ball putting mat. It will be flush with the screen and balls will land on it. It is very light, so easy to remove. I will have a cut out for a heavier driving range type stance mat. This mat will in turn have a cut out for a fiberbuilt strip. If you have other DIY solutions, I'd be very interested.

[trumb1mj]

The software is no longer supported and the api for the hardware is restricted so I wouldn't doubt that sales are down.

[trhuke]

Ah, since you haven't gotten an update lately "the software is no longer supported" huh"?

I don't remember any promises of regular updates when I bought my box. There's a couple things I'd love to see tweaked, but it still works great.

If I was going to complain about lack of updates it would be TGC 2019, that has several weirdnesses that weren't there in the previous version. Adding new features could be pretty challenging. Fixing broken features that worked in the previous version? Doesn't seem like it would be that difficult unless they rewrote the whole package from the ground up.

[trumb1mj]

When software doesn't get updated for a year, the project seems inactive. Do you have evidence that the software is still supported?

[Jason Penner]

The software is no longer supported and the api for the hardware is restricted so I wouldn't doubt that sales are down.

Your answers really are exhausting. Hope you cheer up someday dude

[trumb1mj]

It's been a year. Prove me wrong.

[Fhacker]

If u hate it so bad sell it and get something else. Is it really worth all this undo anguish. I also might add it’s a video golf simulator, not a life changing experience IMO

[Wizard of Coz]

What needs updated? When I had skytrak the range seemed like a finished product.

[Gazpacho]

One can’t say sales of Skytrak are exploding because they have no date. I said sales are likely not too great because as part of a large high end club and large surrounding community, I have heard of no one who has a Skytrak. This is purely anecdotal with regards to international sales, but if sales stink, I get it. Imho Skytrak should have a total package worth a darn. It was a huge deal to get mine right. Their business plan and marketing needs help. I love my set up, but it took a lot of work that shouldn’t have been necessary. The launch monitor is great, the rest is an issue that takes dedication to get right

[trhuke]

"Do you have evidence that the software is still supported?"

Yes, the software still works just fine. It reaches out, verifies and starts right up. If it wasn't "supported" it wouldn't have anything to connect to, log in to, etc. and hence would't work.

Mine is humming along nicely. There's your evidence.

Is it still supported.... sheesh.

Also, what Wizard said.

[Morini]

The true test of whether something is supported or not is when an OS update (or similar) breaks the software. If no fix is forthcoming, I'd say it is unsupported. Since that hasn't happened yet, we can't really call it unsupported. It still works, more or less as advertised.

[wbond]

High ball speed is probably the only thing that needs to be addressed. Strange thing is some are affected and some are not, but it is a recognized issue by skytrak and should be addressed.

What needs updated? When I had skytrak the range seemed like a finished product.

[trhuke]

wbond.... I WISH I had the high ball speed problem... ;-)

[wbond]

I didn't have that issue either and I believe i had about a perfect ST as possible. I didn't have issues with no reads, no ball speed issues, no connection issues, etc.

[trhuke]

Yup, mine just hums right along too. I'll have a misread every once in a while, usually when I'm trying to hit a gap wedge straight up...

[trhuke]

One of the SkyTrak guys I was talking with mentioned that they were trying to redo the offset system for builds that couldn't line up with the middle of the screen due to space issues. That would be nice, the current system is kind of wonky.