Tons of NoReads/Misreads with Wedges.... New Fiberbuilt Insert

[JacobM21]

I recently purchased a 1’x1’ fiberbuilt fairway insert and inserted into my current mat. Problem is I’m getting a ton of misreads which is more common with my wedges than my longer irons. Has anyone experienced this with the fiberbuilt insert?

Also, I notice that I feel the hard plastic on the bottom of the insert when I swing down on the ball as I normally would. I was hoping for a better out of box experience with fiberbuilt after all the good reviews I’ve read, but so far I feel like I’ve taken 10 steps backwards.

ive noticed that a fat shot with my fiberbuilt is a lot more penalizing than my original mat.

pictures of my setup are attached.

[GungHoGolf]

Most guys are very happy with the Fiberbuilt hitting surface. The fibers are over 1" tall - if you're hitting the plastic below you're taking WAY too deep of a divot.

Haven't heard of Fiberbuilt mats causing more mis-reads with SkyTrak.

The reason the Fiberbuilt can be more penalizing distance-wise on a fat shot is that the club continues down, and you catch the ball high on the clubface. A typical mat will let the club skip/slide into the ball and still catch it fairly pure, even when mat-first contact happens.

[JacobM21]

I’m thinking part of the issue I’m experiencing is the ball riding up the club as you mentioned because I’m no where near the center. I’ll clean my clubs and see where contact is being made.

[Morini]

Great points, Ron.

• I assume that Skytrak height is adjusted to same as top of the FB fibers. If not, that could be the issue.
• If the height is correct, you could be going over it. What is the highest launch that reads? Skytrak will struggle as you approach 50 degrees VLA. Try the ball one inch forward and if needed one inch closer to Skytrak (from red dot).
• Finally, 1 x 1 is a bit on the small side, versus say the more common configuration, 3 x 1. Not sure if that matters.

[JacobM21]

I’ve got the Skytrak level with the top fibers of the grass. And I don’t feel like my swing is so deep that it’s taking that big of a divot. I’m contemplating ordering another 1x1 insert to give some more space.

ive tried the one inch in front of the dot for the wedges, but it flat out doesn’t help much.

I’ll keep playing with it to find what works. Worst case scenario I’ll go back and put in the turf I previously cut out.

[Morini]

So what is the highest VLA that reads? The one inch forward and one inch closer let's most go past 50 degrees. You could also try raising Skytrak another 1/4 inch. As long as woods still read, no problem. Most likely you are launching higher off FB for whatever reason.

ive noticed that a fat shot with my fiberbuilt is a lot more penalizing than my original mat.

Interesting because the most common knock on fiberbuilt is that it does not punish fat enough.

[JacobM21]

I just went through my tour shots and non tour shots and saw that the highest launch angle on any shot was 48. I’ll go through a range session later today and download the data.

As for the fat shot punishment, it is excessive. I can feel it right away that I’m not getting anywhere near the center of the club. So I’m not surprised when I’m 50 yards short on a shot because it feels awful. I think I might be taking too much of a divot, but I’ve never had the issue before so I’m shocked that I’m experiencing it with the fiberbuilt.

I I’ll try the 1/4 inch above to see if that helps too.

Thanks for your help and advice

[Morini]

48 is quite high, and nearing the limits of skytrak. I think you are indeed quite steep, since you find FB punishing for distance and mentioned feeling the plastic strip. Most likely your old mat let the club bounce into the ball. If you had a mat like CCE it would have severely punished your distance and your body.. Generally, mats that let you hit down and through have realistic launch with low vla and high spin. But maybe you manage to contact high on face. Footspray might give some insight.

[JacobM21]

Sorry for the delay in data. I haven't had much time recently. I was able to get some information that hopefully will help. I also cleaned my clubs and noticed that I was hitting the ball a little high on the club than I normally do so that'll probably explain the numerous no reads. I've since modified some things and haven't gotten as many no reads, but I am still fairly sporadic with distances and spin.

[JacobM21]

Attached is a copy of a skytrak session with different clubs.

distance has always been an issue since I first started using my Skytrak so I'm at a point where I just know I have skytrak distances and real life distances. For example, i just hit a 1/4 to 1/2 swing gap wedge on my skytrak that carried 81 yards, but i'm lucky to carry 90 yards on a full swing when playing in TGC

[Morini]

Some crazy spin stuff going on there. I don't think I have every seen such inconsistent spin shot to shot. I think you should repeat, hitting off a short tee instead of mat.

[JacobM21]

Yeah man, spin has always been like that, so I'm not even sure what to think about it. I'll try off a short tee soon and post the data. I was hoping the fiberbuilt would help with the spin issue, but it really hasn't.

Note: These spin numbers are a lot better than before, but no idea why they're so inconsistent. I'm not the best player, but i'm not that inconsistent either. Makes playing TGC rather frustrating when you have no idea what will happen.