How to solve the unpredictable automatic ghost shooting problem?

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  • Morini
    Super Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 742

    #16
    It is possible that the reads for sim is different, but I can't see why it would be (other than putting). Skytrak range works well across its acceptable range of ball speeds and trajectory.

    Here is why putting is different:

    Skytrak "freezes" the ball with two strobes (on for each imager). There is also a third strobe, about 10 ms after the first. I believe the purpose of the third strobe is to prevent "phantom" shots. If the unit sees a ball in the third image, it assumes that it was not a real shot. The problem is that for putts, the ball is NOT yet out of view. That is why a special putting mode is required when in sim play. I think it ignores/cancels the third phantom shot checking strobe. I don't know any of this for a fact, just speculating. But I can see no other purpose for the third strobe. (putting also doesn't read spin, but that is a different topic)

    It is possible that the sim software does something similar for short chips to increase read rate for very short shots, again perhaps telling the unit to ignore the third strobe when it expects a short shot that won't get out of view. And with this phantom shot error checking procedure removed, phantom shots would go up. All speculation, but could be the way it is done. But why is this an issue for you, but not for most others? What is different. And since it did occur frequently with the first TGC, but then was fixed, why is it still occurring in TGC2019? Mystery.

    Also, I am wondering if the Skytrak specific TGC2019 settings have any impact. None of the other sims have the non-boost options, so must relate to Skytrak's short shot issues. Here is mine:

    [Skytrak]
    Horizontal Angle Correction=ON
    Short Chip Correction=ON
    Putting Correction=ON
    Driver Boost=0
    Wood Boost=0
    Iron Boost=0
    Wedge Boost=0
    Putter Boost=0
    Short Chip Backspin Correction=0

    Have you posted in the TGC2019 forum? I believe Max and even Dennis as well as a few other Protee people are active from time to time. They are definitely active in the discord.
    Last edited by Morini; 02-12-2022, 08:02 PM.

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    • David Shen
      Senior Member
      • May 2017
      • 155

      #17
      Morini Thank you for showing me your settings of Skytrak, I have the exact same setup as yours.
      Recently, I got and installed the beta Skytrak TGC Interface from https://download.protee-united.com/s...kytrakBeta.exe. It's a pretty good Interface has many improvements, but the ghost shot happened as well. The ghost shot happened again yesterday, and I videoed it for you to see. https://youtu.be/1rAyLxA9Vys

      Let me tell you how the ghost shot happen. I just used my 60 degree wedge to rake a ball on the red laser point, then put my 60 wedge behind the ball, at this moment ghost shot happened. When the ghost shot happened, I immediately froze myself and started checking the environment. I found an interesting thing, I found that the big white side (no logo, no line, very white, clean and shining side) of my ball was facing the unit. Then I asked three of my friends (they don't get ghost shots as often as I do.) how they put the ball. Two of them told me they always put the logo side to the unit, the other one didn't do that like me. Morini, how about you, do you put the logo side to the unit?
      Toronto Courses I published in TGC 2019 & PGA 2K21:
      DiamondBack GC
      St. Andrews Valley GC
      Cardinal West Wing Lidar
      Cardinal East Wing Lidar
      King's Riding GC Lidar
      King Valley GC Lidar
      Bond Head South Lidar
      Bond Head North Li V2
      RedCrest Lidar
      Cherry Downs GC Lidar V1
      Copper Creek GC Lidar V2
      Eagle Nest GC Lidar V1
      Glen Abbey Lidar V1
      Lionhead Legends Lidar V1
      Angus Glen South GC Lidar V1
      Angus Glen North GC Lidar V1
      Upper Unionville GC Lidar V3
      Upland GC Lidar V2
      Richmond Hill GC Lidar V2

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      • Nugget
        Member
        • Dec 2018
        • 76

        #18
        I always put logo side to unit as this helps skytrack read the spin of the ball. Also you might want to try putting the ball a touch behind the red laser dot on the ground. I constantly try different positions for the ball. For driver I find best spot for birdie tee is 1cm in and tee fully behind the laser line.

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        • PKR
          Advanced Member
          • Oct 2019
          • 310

          #19
          I haven't had this happen very often but when it does it usually comes after a no read when I get the ball and roll it back instead of picking it up and waiting for the red dot to reappear.
          Lidar Courses:
          Belmont CC Lidar
          Virginia National Lidar
          Creighton Farms Lidar
          Westpark Va Lidar

          Fictional Simulator Courses:
          Ile aux cinq phares
          Conifer Woods v2
          Rodgers Woods v2
          Greenwood Golf Course Sim
          Desert Valley Golf Sim
          Nine Lakes

          plus others.

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          • David Shen
            Senior Member
            • May 2017
            • 155

            #20
            I updated TGC 2019 software to the latest version 4.3.2. My old version is 4.2.7. A few days have passed now. The ghost shot never happened again. Keep watching...

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            Toronto Courses I published in TGC 2019 & PGA 2K21:
            DiamondBack GC
            St. Andrews Valley GC
            Cardinal West Wing Lidar
            Cardinal East Wing Lidar
            King's Riding GC Lidar
            King Valley GC Lidar
            Bond Head South Lidar
            Bond Head North Li V2
            RedCrest Lidar
            Cherry Downs GC Lidar V1
            Copper Creek GC Lidar V2
            Eagle Nest GC Lidar V1
            Glen Abbey Lidar V1
            Lionhead Legends Lidar V1
            Angus Glen South GC Lidar V1
            Angus Glen North GC Lidar V1
            Upper Unionville GC Lidar V3
            Upland GC Lidar V2
            Richmond Hill GC Lidar V2

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            • dborden0
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2016
              • 210

              #21
              Originally posted by David Shen View Post
              I updated TGC 2019 software to the latest version 4.3.2. My old version is 4.2.7. A few days have passed now. The ghost shot never happened again. Keep watching...

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              Where did you get 4.3.2?

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            • David Shen
              Senior Member
              • May 2017
              • 155

              #22
              I think the new version 4.3.2 helps. Only 1 ghost shot happened within recent 10 days. Before updated, I got 1-2 ghost shots every day (I play 2 different courses everyday). So, I think the version 4.3.2 is a better one. Thank you ProTee Carlo for the download link: https://download.protee-united.com/patch/432.exe
              Last edited by David Shen; 02-27-2022, 05:17 PM.
              Toronto Courses I published in TGC 2019 & PGA 2K21:
              DiamondBack GC
              St. Andrews Valley GC
              Cardinal West Wing Lidar
              Cardinal East Wing Lidar
              King's Riding GC Lidar
              King Valley GC Lidar
              Bond Head South Lidar
              Bond Head North Li V2
              RedCrest Lidar
              Cherry Downs GC Lidar V1
              Copper Creek GC Lidar V2
              Eagle Nest GC Lidar V1
              Glen Abbey Lidar V1
              Lionhead Legends Lidar V1
              Angus Glen South GC Lidar V1
              Angus Glen North GC Lidar V1
              Upper Unionville GC Lidar V3
              Upland GC Lidar V2
              Richmond Hill GC Lidar V2

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              • BrewsLee
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2020
                • 14

                #23
                How do you guys find out if a new patch is available? I don't know how the average user would have ever found the link to this patch.

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                • l40niners1
                  Member
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 72

                  #24
                  Is there a list of what was updated with 4.3.2?

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                  • Justin JY Christensen
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 148

                    #25
                    ProTee Carlo is 4.3.2 still the latest patch?
                    TGC 2019 Course Builds:
                    - Strawberry Creek
                    - Racine Country Club
                    - Tuckaway Country Club
                    - Meadowbrook Country Club
                    - Broadlands
                    - Shepherd's Crook
                    - Thunderhawk
                    - Grand Geneva Highlands
                    - Petrifying Springs
                    - Johnson Park

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