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    I'm doing a lot of research before making the big purchase of skytrak and TGC.

    One thing I've noticed when watching videos of folks using their skytraks is how many good shots I see. Maybe too many good shots. If you play a nasty slice often, does the nasty slice come up on skytrak?

    I know that most people are going to selectively feature their best shots but that doesn't explain this video. This guy has no business piping his drive dead center.




  • #2
    As a high handicapper I can validate that a slicer on the course will be a slicer on skytrak / TGC. You have to remember a lot of the people willing to invest have been playing golf for years and are decent. If you watched a full round of my play you'd get about a 95 or so which is close to what I play in real life.

    I played when I was younger but never got lessons or good instructions. After using skytrak for a year I've gotten much better at striking the ball and am still working on that right in to out path with my driver. But I confirmed on the real course this weekend that I'm improving and I owe that to practice time with skytrak.

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    • Joko
      Joko commented
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      I will add that I'm terrible at sand shots since I've had zero real life practice with sand shots. It's a sad thing to land in the sand on the real course

    • golfinaddicts
      golfinaddicts commented
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      Ill tell you what revolutionized my sand play. Really bend your knees, make an effort to get your upper body lower by bending your knees. It will one thing get you at the distance you need to get the club under the ball remember you are hitting the sand not the ball. and it will also help to cause your body to move the way it is supposed to during a sand shot. spread your legs and little more, bend the knees and hit about an inch behind the ball remembering to hit the sand nice and firm, imagine you wanted to throw sand from the bunker as far as you would want the ball to go and thats how hard you need to swing.

  • #3
    Originally posted by Tjspicer
    I'm doing a lot of research before making the big purchase of skytrak and TGC.

    One thing I've noticed when watching videos of folks using their skytraks is how many good shots I see. Maybe too many good shots. If you play a nasty slice often, does the nasty slice come up on skytrak?

    I know that most people are going to selectively feature their best shots but that doesn't explain this video. This guy has no business piping his drive dead center.


    Like Furyk had no business shooting 58. C'Mon Man. Sure he can. Skytrak is awesome and very accurate. I can predict the shot shape look up and skytrak confirms it. I can almost predict the carry yards now based on my strike and is confirmed also. I have a pretty good idea on the spin also and skytrak confirms. My avg score 2015 78.2 now 2016 after skytrak use 75.3. I'm using skytrak and skypro.

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

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    • #4
      It's pretty realistic. I'm bad at golf, and skytrak is a great dose of humility. Slices gonna slice.

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      • Dan McWhirter
        Dan McWhirter commented
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        And a duck hook is gonna duck hook!

      • Monovision
        Monovision commented
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        Yep! So many slices and ducks, you'd think I was a French chef.

    • #5
      I have a mean slice in real life. I mean, it looks strait, and then turns left (I'm a lefty) and ends up 50-75 yards offline. Skytrak shows this accurately.

      When you first use the Skytrak, you will notice shorter distances. This will work itself out to show normal once you are no longer afraid of shanking the ball into the unit, get used to hitting indoors (assuming you are hitting indoors) and get used to hitting off a mat (I've noticed this take distance off my shot, but I took it to the range on real grass and saw accurate readings to how I play).

      I was frustrated at first and convinced myself it was the two thousand dollar unit I purchased. But, in the end I realized it was me. Now I'm consistently seeing accurate readings to how I know I play except hitting irons off the mat because I much prefer grass.

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      • #6
        I agree with the above posts and find that Skytrak accurately shows my shot shape, trajectory, etc. There are occasionally shots that don't seem to match up, but they are infrequent. Some have said there is a tendency to exaggerate hooks compared to real life, but others have disputed that, chalking the difference up to small misalignment of stance or unit. Definitely be patient with indoor yardage, as it often takes time to get used to your indoor driving range.

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        • #7
          TJ, the unit accurately shows your shots, both good and bad. For me, the great thing about a device like the ST is that it shows ball flight beyond the 8 feet or so of ball flight I can actually see when hitting into a net in my basement. My shot might appear fine, but spin on the ball sometimes causes it to veer off-course as it moves down the line, at least in cyber-space. I wouldn't be aware of that characteristic, or even that it is ball spin causing it, without the software showing me the ball's flight. On the other hand, when I get it right, I see that too, which is both motivational and helps me try to recreate whatever it was in my swing which gave that result. In short, it's been very helpful to me as a feedback tool. As has been mentioned, people, including vendors like the one whose video you linked to, naturally tend to put their better shots up for the wide world to see.
          Last edited by GmanJeff; 08-09-2016, 06:30 PM.

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          • #8
            Try watching the videos of people posting complete rounds. You'll see lots of slices and hooks!

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            • #9
              I agree with all the posts above.
              Quick answer: ST is Accurate..

              I have hit thousands of balls outdoors with the skytrak app. Mainly 140 yard & in of actual flight due to space at my home. The feedback of seeing the actual flight and what Skytrak reports is accurate. When it is very windy it is a great tool to see what the winds influence on the ball actually is. Hit a premium ball vs a distance ball and you will see the difference. Use dirty wedges on dirty balls, you will see the difference. Ht it fat or thin you will see the difference. Put water on the ball and the clubface and you will see the difference.

              I can feel at impact what the ball is going to do before SkyTrak data comes up when hitting into a net. There will be the getting used to hitting on a mat, indoors, distance issues, etc... Just takes time. Get a good mat. I use a Country Club Elite & love it. ST in combo with GameGolf has really given me solid data. I know if I make a reasonable decent swing with decent contact the ball will go X yards.

              I collect/strike the ball much better than prior to SkyTrak. I think that from 30-100 yards ST has helped my scoring greatly. Working with different clubs to get to the same distance really helps to give you options on the course. Differing launch angles and spin rates, confidence in knowing you can throw it 50 yards instead of 40 or 60 because you have done it 100's of times is key. Being able to spend 30 minutes at home vs. going to the range is huge for my schedule.

              Spin rates across the board have improved. When I first started w ST I would get 3000-4000-5000 spin on the driver. Now I am in the 2200-2400 range on good strikes consistently, ball speeds are up, LA are getting consistent. Wedge spins rates and launch angles are getting near ideal. . The 30* launch is a good benchmark for me for partial wedges.

              Couple little fun things I have noted for nerds....

              Spin rates per yard of carry is something I keep an eye on. At 80 yards of carry, 30*LA, 10400 is a good figure.. so 130 RPM per yard of carry. On a 60 yard carry @ 30*, spin is 9200 so approx 150 per yard of carry. On a 10 yard carry @ a launch angle of 31*, 3400 is 340 RPM per yard of carry gets me that nice little check. So it is a sliding scale for spin as the carry goes up spin per yard goes down. I have seen SR of approx 11,000 @ 100 yards.. Dipping below 25* and exceeding 35* LA has its place but for a stock shot I like that 30* figure.

              The relationship of club speed (calculated)- ball speed (sim to Smash Factor) is interesting. Divide ball speed by club speed. My most consistent high spinning 30ish* LA come in at .74 to about .90.. Lots of friction with ball/face/grooves.... When ball speed and club speed are close to the same speed it feels like I am tossing a ball underhand. Makes carry distance easier to judge but spin rates will generally be lower. Good for a deeper pins. Over time I have learned what these feel and looks like. I also know the days that I just don't have it and adjust accordingly.

              I have had my best ball striking, driving, short game performances this year. I am currently a 4HC. It still requires lots of work to improve but the feedback is key.

              The software continues to improve. Excited for the new release for iOS.Max Height, Angle of Descent, The Skill Assessment. All great additions.

              I have not tried much sim with it so I will not comment.I will be getting into this in the fall I would imagine.

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              • tomsyn
                tomsyn commented
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                Agree completely with everything right up to sim play. Great addition to the game. I live in the caribbean and its difficult during the week to practise as the sunlight is gone at 6.30...like gone gone...so to have this at home is excellent to practise with. Like what was said above, it is highly accurate. I moved to new Apex Pro irons recently from 2014 Apex (normal) and i tried them on skytrak at home first before the range. Noticed I was about 10/15 yards less per club but that the spin rates went up and shot dispersion became less. Took them out to the course and EXACTLY what was on skytrak between the clubs was found IRL. I dont particularly use drivers to hybrids as i find them to be a little inconsistent - for me anyway.

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              tomsyn If you are hitting both 7 irons for example, you are hitting the pro version shorter because it's loft is essentially one club shorter. Apex 2014 7 iron is 31 degree, Apex pro 2016 7 iron is 34 degree, also the reason more spin.

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              • tomsyn
                tomsyn commented
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                hi wbond, yes I realised that when i was buying them. All clubs have shifted basically downwards except the pw and aw which are approx 5 yards less. which i was delighted skytrak picked it up accurately to be fair. but the clubs make a huge difference on approaches now. no more roll out across the green. it rained sunday when i was playing and cleared up pretty quick - usual here - and on par 3, 125 yards into a bit of a wind, hit 7 iron casually (normal now is 140/145 with it, old 7 iron was 155/160) and it even produced 3/4 feet backspin. shots go and stay where they land now which is excellent. dropped my 60 degree and brought in my old apex 4 iron to bridge a distance gap to my 5 wood.

            • #11
              I can vouch for the accuracy of the unit. I was hitting pulls and overdraws on Saturday on the course. I fired up the ST and the virtual range and sure enough I was hitting pulls and overdraws until I figured out what I was doing which is why I love the unit! I can figure stuff out in the comfort of my basement. Granted I also see a PGA coach and can email him to put me on the right track. I don't think you will be disappointed at all with the accuracy.

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              • #12
                mine is very accurate, here is what i hit with a 6 iron

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                • wterryiv
                  wterryiv commented
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                  I think you need to work on your spin rates.

                • Dan McWhirter
                  Dan McWhirter commented
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                  I take it you're good at modifying a picture? I hope!

                • SkyTrak_Seth
                  SkyTrak_Seth commented
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                  Which version of the app was that on? That's obviously a mis-read, but you should not ever be getting results of zero spin. Has this happened before?

              • #13
                Originally posted by coz View Post
                Like Furyk had no business shooting 58. C'Mon Man. Sure he can. Skytrak is awesome and very accurate. I can predict the shot shape look up and skytrak confirms it. I can almost predict the carry yards now based on my strike and is confirmed also. I have a pretty good idea on the spin also and skytrak confirms. My avg score 2015 78.2 now 2016 after skytrak use 75.3. I'm using skytrak and skypro.

                Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
                I just got mine and for short chips and putts it never reads but I am trouble shooting it

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                • 3on3putt
                  3on3putt commented
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                  Make sure for putts you are placing the ball several inches behind the red dot and then rolling the ball over the dot. For chips, place the ball about a half inch in front of the dot with the logo facing the skytrak. Short chips and putts should read almost every time.

                • Morini
                  Morini commented
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                  The terminology can be tricky. A chip is typically a low, rolling shots, and depending on club used, could be behind dot, or on dot. A short, high pitch may need to go slightly in front.

              • #14
                Thanks 3 on 3
                I read this somewhere before but didn’t know putts should be behind the red line
                i read driver before the red line and wedge in front and it said 1-2cm or a golf ball

                i guess I will mess around to see what works best thanks again!

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                • 3on3putt
                  3on3putt commented
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                  Driver goes behind. Driver and putts behind (about 3 inches for driver and 6-8 inches for putter). Wedges about a half inch in front, not much. Everything else on the dot or close to it. Face the logo of the ball to the unit.
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