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**DirtyGarry24** · 03-11-2017, 12:51 PM

**BWJones** · 03-11-2017, 11:02 PM

Gary, I just ordered one. Look forward to it.

**N54TT** · 03-14-2017, 02:50 AM

I've had the Armour for a couple days now and figured I'd post a review. I have had the Skytrak plastic clamshell case since it came out. I have never even come close to hitting the Skytrak, but my daughter hit it once with her first swing. It took the hit, spun around and nothing happened. Needless to say, I haven't let her use the Skytrak since then. I've been waiting for a better case and was watching how the Armour and FMJ panned out.

It's been said before so I wasn't surprised on how hefty/heavy the Armour is. Calling it a tank is well deserved. It comes in two parts, the base plate and the top cover. The holes for the Skytrak mount and top cover are big enough to allow for a modest amount of play. So for those that have alignment dots that are off and not parallel to the front of the skytrak, you have plenty of adjustment. My alignment dots are slightly off so I took some time to carefully align them parallel to the alignment rod. I placed a level/straight edge flush against the Armour...and made sure both dots were the same distance away. Since my alignment dots are off, the body of the skytrak sits at a slight angle to the base of the Armour. What's great about the two piece design is that the top cover can now be installed parallel to the body of the Skytrak. The importance of that is that the window of the Armour case is still flush with the front of the Skytrak...ensuring no issues with misreads. Now you can just place it down and use and alignment rod to aim the skytrak. IMO the open cutout of the Armour is better than the bars on the FMJ...ensuring that nothing is blocked and reducing any misreads. A ball will not touch the screen...provided you don't install the skytrak too close to the front of the top cover. Foam pads on the inside prevent that from happening. I wonder if there's a possibility that a direct hit at a fast enough speed could potentially cause the ball to deform enough to still contact the screen? But I think I have a better chance of hitting the lottery lol.

The opening for the bulls eye level was the perfect size for the level that comes with the Skytrak case. Unfortunately it turns out the top of my Amrour case was bent down at the lower tolerance and was hitting the ridge of that level..causing the bottom of the top cover to not sit flush with the base plate. Gary was great in contacting me and quickly determine what the issue was...he even sent me a level that works with my case.

I found a potential issue with hardmounting the skytrak. There are ridges on the skytrak that creates a space between the bottom of the skytrak and the surface it sits on. Since the skytrak is all plastic....tightening the mount screws could potentially pull down and cause undue stress on the plastic. I went to the hardware store and bought some washers to fill in that space. I took some pics to show the space and washers I used. Not sure if it's a real concern...but it's the perfectionist and my attention to detail that I felt I needed to address it. Other than that and my issue with my bullseye level...there's not much else I'd change.

My router is a couple rooms over and have not noticed any issues with WIFI. Overall it's a great case, glad I waited and wont hesitate to let my girls hit on the skytrak.

**Smiling_Dog** · 03-15-2017, 03:31 AM

Didn't Skytrak say the alignment lasers aren't accurate and we should be aligning the cases?

How does oversized holes help give true parallel if this is the case?

**dborden0** · 03-15-2017, 03:43 AM

Originally posted by Smiling_Dog View Post

Didn't Skytrak say the alignment lasers aren't accurate and we should be aligning the cases?

How does oversized holes help give true parallel if this is the case?

I would like a definitive answer on this from Skytrak. Maybe they could do a better alignment mode that would read an alignment stick and tell you how to adjust it to properly align the unit.

**Smiling_Dog** · 03-15-2017, 04:27 AM

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09-27-2016, 05:19 PM
I would trust the alignment of the unit itself. I think we've seen that those lasers can be knocked out of place slightly, and they really have no tie to the cameras. If the lasers are not matching up to real-life alignment, you can always have it sent in to have the readjusted, but I'm beginning to question the practicality of the alignment mode feature due to this reason. In a perfect world it would be a nice feature, but it's not really what the lasers were intended for.

**DirtyGarry24** · 03-15-2017, 02:46 PM

N54TT - Has it correct. I've said before in other threads that you shouldn't pick a side on the alignment argument. You should find what feels/works best for you. I've been on both sides while getting comfortable with my Skytrak (4 months). If I align to the dots, my ST needs to be open to the target line a few degrees. I operated this way for about a month and felt it was correct. Then I played real golf and missed right all day. It was because I was compensating in my swing for a left bias because my ST was open to the target. So, I've moved to aligning to the ST face and it matches up better with what I see IRL. It DOES NOT mean that some are wrong in aligning to dots. This works for me and my ST. I have an overall feeling that Skytraks in general have a less than stellar tolerance from one to the next. Which leads to the 2 piece design and the use of those tabs.

I've said before the idea of the tabs was from forum member MikeAa . Mike is a sharp guy and helped me out a lot with this project. With a one piece welded design, you're locked in on a lot of things. X, Y, and Z axes would be locked. As well as rotational freedom. With a welded one piece design you could rotate the ST within the box, but the window is now compromised. The two piece design gives you freedom for all of this. Being that I had exactly one ST to do all of my testing with, I felt the tabs really gave me piece of mind to send these out to many people and have them work for all. So far that has been the case. It has been mentioned that it is a bit cumbersome to assemble correctly and I agree 100%. It comes with the design though.

**SkyTrak_Seth** · 03-16-2017, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by dborden0 View Post

I would like a definitive answer on this from Skytrak. Maybe they could do a better alignment mode that would read an alignment stick and tell you how to adjust it to properly align the unit.

Definitive Answer: As I said before, the idea behind alignment mode was a good one, but it was not what the lasers were originally intended for. The lasers are only to be used a guide to place the ball on the mat. If RH and LH are off a bit in that capacity, it really doesn't matter and no one would know the difference. But when dealing with alignment mode and the resulting impact on side angle, it becomes a big deal. In my opinion, too big of a deal given the current hardware limitations, which is why I'm taking it out of the next release and replacing it with something much cooler. In the meantime, we will be exploring better options for alignment.

**titleistwhore** · 03-17-2017, 04:51 PM

Just wanted to say thanks to Gary. I ordered the case on ebay and it was shipped extremely quickly and will deliver on Monday. Skytrak got here yesterday. I cant wait to try it out!

**petroche** · 03-17-2017, 08:22 PM

I received the SkyTrak Armour this week and I have played for about 6 hours total with it protecting the SkyTrak. This will not be a full review, just a few comments.

The number of misreads or noreads that I get with the armour on is no different than before I started using it. this was my main concern when I ordered it and I'm very pleased to see that my concern was unfounded. I live in the Edmonton area in Alberta Canada and I had no extra duties to pay when the mail woman delivered it. It was easy(ish) to assemble and I had no problems with alignment, in fact, I find the alignment stick placement bevels to be very helpful. The build quality is impressive and I believe that anyone who owns the armour would be very pleased with their purchase.

A big thanks to Gary for the significant amount of work that he put into the development of this.

I now have a plastic SkyTrak protection box that I bought in November 2016 that I'm looking to unload.

**DirtyGarry24** · 03-18-2017, 02:19 AM

petroche - Awesome words

The difference from one person to the next in duties is interesting.

**ganders75** · 03-21-2017, 10:12 AM

Hi Gary, received mine in the UK a few days ago. All set up, just using the single screw in the center at the minute to hold the SkyTrak. Even after reading other peoples comments the case is so much heavier than I gave credit for. Rock solid. Like the other poster, mine doesn't have sufficient clearance to fit the SkyTrak in the case with the bubble level attached - it's maybe 1mm out. No biggie - just popped it off and sat it on the outside. With all Seth's comments about the alignment mode, I have to say it's a little difficult to be 100% sure on the alignment of the unit inside the case itself - but that is a small price to pay for the level of protection that it gives.

So, no more missed shots than usual, and all in all I'm made up with it.

Cheers Gary, and great work.

**doublepar22** · 03-23-2017, 12:16 AM

I've had the case for a few days, but my Skytrak just arrived yesterday. I'm glad I found this forum before buying the plastic case from Skytrak. Thanks for taking the time to design and manufacture these cases! It is built like a tank.

**wbond** · 03-23-2017, 12:50 AM

Wow, i didn't even think of attaching the ST to the base before putting the front on. I guess sometimes the light bulb just doesn't come on

**Lukej88** · 03-26-2017, 03:48 AM

I have had my Armour case for a few weeks now and have a ton of rounds with it. I would only let one great friend play on my ST before I had the Armour. I will now let hacks play with me because I feel so comfortable having this Armour protecting the ST.

Gary is a great forum member for taking on this project and delivering a product that works as advertised! When I received my Armour in the mail the box was in shambles and a nice note attached to the box from USPS. The cliffs notes version, they were sorry for the damage to the package. As I was opening the box, what was left of it I just knew that some hardware would be missing and damage to the Armour was inevitable. As suspected there were scratches on the Armour and there was no hardware in the box. I sent a PM to Gary asking the hardware size so I could run to the hardware store and source the hardware. Gary replied right away and offered to send me out a new Armour case right away. I told him that I can live with the scratches and asked him to send me the feet for the base.

I am writing this long winded post to say that Gary will take care of issues that may arise because he cares even after the sale is over. This damage was not Gary's fault it was USPS that was to fault. I mentioned to Gary that it looked like the box had been thrown out of an airplane, the box was damaged so bad. This speaks for the Armour being built like a tank to only have a couple scratches!!!

Thank you Gary and keep up the fine work and customer service, as I am sure this has become another full time job for you!

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