New NVIDIA GPUs

[intentionally]

They just announced the RTX 3070, 3080, and 3090. At least twice as powerful as the 20 series. So might want to wait until late september to either get a unit w the new cards, or get the 2080s on sale....

[a98cr125]

The 30 series GPUs can handle 30 teraflops of shader processing, 58 teraflops of RT core processing, and 238 teraflops of Tensor core processing....... ummmmm wow.....

[fortysixandtwo]

They should be able to handle 4k gaming with ease, I’m ok with it pushing 20 series down in price though..

[SkeetShooter]

I can't wait to see the price-points of these cards... Also, its somewhat ironic that these cards will likely be relatively "widely available" to the population, all while there is a global shortage of Power supplies... Oh and that's right, they are saying that the 30 series cards are in some cases going to potentiall pull/require 350w of available power... Good freaking luck sourcing a reliable PSU if you don't have one already... oof.

[StalefishFS3]

Andantech has a summary on this:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16057/nvidia-announces-the-geforce-rtx-30-series-ampere-for-gaming-starting-with-rtx-3080-rtx-3090

I'm a computer moron, so leaving up to the experts on this site what will be good for a sweet 4K gaming experience.

[SkeetShooter]

Wow. The 3080 is the best bang for the buck in that bunch.twice the performance of a 2080 Ti and $200 less in price... Someone is trying mighty hard to undercut big red...

[GarageDasein]

They should be able to handle 4k gaming with ease, I’m ok with it pushing 20 series down in price though..

Historically that does not happen. They just go out of stock.

[Dax]

I think someone mentioned it above, but make sure you check the power supply requirements prior to making the switch.

[Will]

I have a 2080ti with a projector and two monitors that can handle 2160p inputs. I can run TGC2019 at 60fps and above, with 60% on fog quality (not really noticed), and 100% on just about all other items. The 2080ti runs wicked hot and is pegged at or near 100% while playing sim golf. There is a flaw with the heat management of the standard blower cards; the fans have to be cranked up (with msi afterburner) to very audible levels to keep stable temps. I had to add an intake and exhaust fan to the case to help with the heat issues.

I am interested in this new series for two reasons. Thermal management for reliability and noise reduction. I want to know how this new 30 series card can be silenced. The 2080ti has to have screaming fans to maintain temps below 80c (84c is the max before you start damaging a card).

By the way, the visuals are just wonderful, and the detail makes a difference on these large screens. Uneekor forces 1080p graphics and its a joke (better than FSX from what I have seen) compared to TGC2019 in 4k. In TGC 2019, 2160p is resolved and we need even higher resolutions (even with impacts screens) and better use of color by the applications. Love my current setup and I am only pointing out some audible, thermal, and technical issues.

4k is relevant and absolutely clear at these screen sizes and user proximity.

[SkeetShooter]

Will Something isnt right with your setup. I looked at the case design and its just not setup for good air flow. It has basically a solid front panel on it. So how many case fans does it actually have? I only count 1 if this is the liquid cooled variant. adding some more case fans would really help your GPU out. Do you have a picture of the computer? Also, if you really want to go silent PC, you could always go with a GPU Block for water cooling if that was something you wanted to do, but you would need to get another a radiator and loop

[JoeBlowGolfer]

I believe there are two intake fans on the front (behind the front panel, the air pulls in from the side vents on the front panel), one exhaust in the rear, and if the rad type, one exhaust thru the CPU rad. I agree that this is very limited airflow for a 2080Ti. I run 9 case fans with my 2080Ti and it can still get hot, even with the bottom intakes blowing directly into the GPU fans.

[SkeetShooter]

All the guys (4) I know that run a 2080Ti are on liquid, or are using the Lian Li Der Bauer Air case with a ton of fans in a push pull config.
I looked at that case and it just looks like a hot box to me. The fan at the rear appears to be the only one. Tom's hardware did a review and they stated as much. Also its a 9900K, which does not run cool by any means (regardless of liquid cooling)

He should also check the configuration of the radiator fan... if its in a pull configuration, that will only exacerbate issues. I mean he has one exhaust fan on the rear, a theoretical exhaust fan on the radiator, and the 2080Ti has two intake fans pulling from the bottom, where the power supply is also pulling. Put all this together, and its no wonder why his temps are crazy.

I'd replace the existing case fan and radiator fan with either some Noctua fans or BeQuiet! fan's and then add at minimum 2 fans to either the front possibly one to the bottom (if it is possible to do so)

Just for comparison's sake... My setup is a 2070, Over Clocked (mildly) an AMD 2700X also with a mild over clock.

I have 3 120mm fans in a pull configuration at the front, 2 at the top on my 240mm Radiator in a push configuration, and one 120mm in a push configuration at the rear. I keep my PC in my garage and temps in the garage have gotten to well near 100*F and I have never seen GPU temperatures push above 72*C. Also my fan's barely run when kept under control. Maybe its because my MSI 2070 has 3 fans on it and it does a great job managing temps, but I never hear my GPU start taking off like a jet engine, and I almost never see my Case Fans or CPU fans go nuts...

[Dax]

Sorry are we saying the Der Bauer case runs hot? I have the Lian li and it has room for a lot of fans if not being liquid cooled.

[SkeetShooter]

No The Der Bauer does not run hot. I'm saying that the guys I know run that case with a 2080Ti. There are 2 variants of it. The normal one which is optimized for Liquid cooling, and an Air model. Ironically, all of the guys I know are running the liquid one, regardless of liquid cooling or air, and have no issues.

[keither5150]

Skeetshooter is correct.... add some fans. I have an old Antec case....3x 120mm, 2x140mm, and one 200mm fan. All fans are 3 speed fans..... I run them on low. I have a RTX 2080 and never even hear the fans. Exchanging the air in the case is key.

[Dax]

Also, to the extent possible, make sure the CPU fan is not blowing hot air into your GPU and vice versa.

[Will]

I already installed a 120mm noctua fan pulling outside air directly up towards the 2080ti from the bottom. It barely fits.
Also, I replace the oem 90mm rear exhaust fan with a higher cfm noctua fan.
The top radiator fan has been verified to blow heat out of the top.

MSI afterburner fan curve is set to run at least 70-80% fan speed while playing golf. Ramping to 100% if it gets to 82c. It normally rests at 77c for the round and never gets higher.


I also mounted a pair of usb fans to cool the plugs for the monitor cables. It sounds ridiculous, but the 10 meter fiber optic cable plugs get super hot. By applying some light air across them, they would perform without issues. I actually would get one of my screens dropping out because the plug would get too hot. I once thought it was the card. Here is a link to the cables.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V7NOST8...p_mob_ap_share

Sorry to thread-jack, but I have had issues and water cooling sounds like a reasonable option on the 2080ti.

SkeetShooter I limited my computer width by it's mounting space so that it was up between the garage door rails. You are right, the case would change everything.

[SkeetShooter]

Will, I will be completely honest with you. Water cooling is not going to be the solution for you in that specific case. Its going to be almost impossible to make it work for you. My honest recommendation would be to look at a different case with much better air-flow. Water cooling also has its downsides as well, although it takes longer for a gpu and cpu to heat up it also takes much longer to cool down as it will hold heat in the radiator and reservoir.

Personally, I would suggest a good case with great airflow. There are two schools of thought on this but i'll give you my first preference than my second.

1. I'd look to the LianLi 011 Dynamic and then add a few extra fans at the bottom as intake shooting straight up. Granted this will cost more, but the case itself is extremely flexible and future upgradability is tops. You could also go water cooled on this as well if you ever wanted to go that route. The reason why I really like this case and some other cases similarly designed is because the power supply is moved off and behind the motherboard tray so the air that is exhausted is not being directly blown into your GPU which will likely be right above it. Additionally, the case itself is built exceptionally well and has massive flexibility for fan placement, radiators and size. Its a proven performer that can be had below $200.

2. If you don't want something that is as massive as the footprint of a 011 Dynamic, I would consider either a Phanteks p400A with the 3 fan configuration, or a be quiet! 500DX (Also honorable mention here would go to a Fractal Design Meshify) These are a smaller footprint, well designed, and have excellent airflow, with the ability to put in a lot of fans for optimal airflow. These are usually between $80- $140 for these options.

You paid a lot of money for a very good setup. I think it would be a waste for you to spend another $500 on a 3070 and expect better thermal performance. The case/fan configuration is what is stopping you from having better thermal performance.

[Dax]

I have this case for my home office and it has been fantastic. I should note that I am running it with a 2080 Super though and a 3900 and so nothing to serious. Although it is air cooled with 4 fans (two of them exhaust). I am also just using the stock fan that the Ruzen came with.

[vrpunk]

Just need the 4K short throw projectors to come down in price and for Foresight to update their Graphics engine, that's the bottleneck

[SkeetShooter]

I think the Faux-4K projectors like the 1090HDR is actually a reasonable price for the performance you get out of it. I do agree that Foresight needs to update their graphics, FSX2020 was a bit of a let down from what I've seen in person. TGC still has better graphics to it. Trackman's courses I think look excelllent, similar to HD Golf.