NetReturn Nylon Impact Screen

[Shardak]

Here is a video of me playing TGC at 1280x1024. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbAfzFnZ5aU

You can see it almost totally fills the screen. I just measured the screen, it is 7.5 feet wide, 7 feet tall. See the dimensions of the projected image here: http://www.projectorcentral.com/BenQ...ulator-pro.htm

If I change to 1920x1080, the image size is 7.5 feet wide, and only about 4.5 feet tall. So it doesnt fill the screen top to bottom, but it does not look bad. I think I will probably end up sticking with 1920x1080, as the crispness of the image is more important to me than having the image fill the impact screen.

Another option (not available to me using a wireless HDMI kit), is to run at a higher 4:3 resolution like 1600x1200. This will get you the best of both worlds with this impact screen. It will fill the screen, and the image will be of high quality. Unfortunately, my wireless HDMI setup does not support 1600x1200.

[Psw757]

I am using a BenQ 1085ST projector.

There is a trade-off to be made with NetReturn and a 1080 widescreen projector. You can use 1280x1024 resolution to completely fill the squarish impact screen. However, this resolution projected on a 8' x 7.5' screen is not super crisp. The other option is to run 1920x1080. You get a nice crisp image, but because the image is widescreen, it does not fill the entire impact screen.

I cannot decide on which option to use. I keep going back and forth between the 2 resolutions.

I know they advertise the screen as 7'6" wide and 8'6" high.

Are you saying with 1280x1024 that it fills whole screen vertically and horizontally?

And

If you go wide 1920x1080 I'm assuming top and bottom isn't filled but side to side is.

What is the actual image size on the screen? Like 7h x7.6w?

I'm trying to visualize what this would look like.

My gut is telling me the wide format with the tgc may be the way to go.

This is a very helpful discussion for me to make this decision.

[Shardak]

Shardak,
What kind of projector are you running with it and how far from screen is it? What is the actual picture size on the screen? Can a 1080 projector be used?

Any pics or video of your setup?

I am using a BenQ 1085ST projector.

There is a trade-off to be made with NetReturn and a 1080 widescreen projector. You can use 1280x1024 resolution to completely fill the squarish impact screen. However, this resolution projected on a 8' x 7.5' screen is not super crisp. The other option is to run 1920x1080. You get a nice crisp image, but because the image is widescreen, it does not fill the entire impact screen.

I cannot decide on which option to use. I keep going back and forth between the 2 resolutions.

[Psw757]

Shardak,
What kind of projector are you running with it and how far from screen is it? What is the actual picture size on the screen? Can a 1080 projector be used?

Any pics or video of your setup?

[Shardak]

Yeah I just saw that update on the netreturn site...looks promising.

I will head to home-depot today and give it a try.

[Shardak]

>>Is there anyway to tension it just enough so it isn't wavy?

The velcro staps allow you get a decent amount of tension along the top. The bottom 2 straps hold the screen in place (so the edges dont billow out when a ball hits), but I have not figured out how to get them to provide any tension on the bottom corners.


The problems with the screen are that the top of the netreturn Pro frame is curved at the edges. So the outermost 2 velcro fasteners of the screen dont pull the corners straight. I have solved this by attaching the outermost fasteners to the PVC frame that I built (that sits on the top of the Netreturn), instead of to the rounded corners of the NetReturn frame. This gets the top of the impact screen pretty straight. Its not perfect, but its good enough.

The other issue is the 2 fasteners at the bottom corners of the impact screen. I have not yet found a good way to attach them to keep some tension on the screen. They do an OK job, but if you are a perfectionist it may bother you that the screen will have some amount of waviness to it.

Overall I am happy with the setup. I do not have the space for any bigger size screen, otherwise I would have gone with a 10 or 12 foot wide impact screen by itself. 8 feet wide is my limit, and the netreturn net and impact screen makes for a very nice and portable solution that is easy to setup and easy to move if needed. Its not as nice as a stand-alone impact screen, but I am happy with it.

I think I will be able to figure out a solution to get the impact screen a bit flatter, but even with no tweaking right out of the box its a pretty good solution.

The only deal-breaker for me with the impact screen is that wedge shots will deflect up and into the ceiling. The PVC frame at the top is something you will probably need unless you have another solution to catch high shots. I bought 20 feet of 1.25" PVC tubing from homedepot for about $20 and made an 8' X 2' frame, wrapped a bed sheet around it. Works great (looks a little janky but oh well) With this frame, I can hit full 60 wedge shots, even flop shots, and am pretty sure nothing will get over it.


This is my first sim setup, and its getting the job done. TGC + Skytrak is alot of fun. I can live with the limitations of the NetReturn stuff. The net itself is great, the impact screen is decent, and the side nets have saved me several times (shanks that would have gone banging around my garage).

[Shardak]

There are velcro straps already installed on the bottom corners, but I have not found a good way to keep them tight. After a couple shots, the bottom straps kind of rotate on the frame of the Netreturn Pro. But its pretty good as-is...I have not spent much time finding a better solution to keep the whole screen tensioned.

[Cinderellaboy]

Did you try that copper tube across the top suggested on the website to straighten?


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[wbond]

Could you use tarp clips on bungees in the bottom corners to minimize the waves? Don't know how this mounts, so just guessing here.

[Psw757]

The impact screen I have is the new version from NetReturn. It still causes my 60 and 56 degree wedges to deflect up and into the ceiling, so I have built a PVC frame that I sit on top of the net to catch those shots.

Picture quality is just OK. The biggest issue is getting the screen to hang flat is difficult, so the image is wavy because the screen isn't tensioned. If I get a house with a basement, I will replace the netReturn with a stand-alone impact screen.

Is there anyway to tension it just enough so it isn't wavy?

Overall are you happy with it and is it good enough for a small scale sim experience?

[Shardak]

The impact screen I have is the new version from NetReturn. It still causes my 60 and 56 degree wedges to deflect up and into the ceiling, so I have built a PVC frame that I sit on top of the net to catch those shots.

Picture quality is just OK. The biggest issue is getting the screen to hang flat is difficult, so the image is wavy because the screen isn't tensioned. If I get a house with a basement, I will replace the netReturn with a stand-alone impact screen.

[Psw757]

I was under the impression they came out with the new softer material because of noise and when cold the older version allowed balls to bounce back a bit to hard.

The new variety has some Velcro fasteners across the top that keeps it tighter since there really isn't any tension on the screen.

Not sure which is better for picture quality

[leoapd]

If I'm reading and looking at the site correctly, net return has two screens avail? Seems one is plastic and one is not, more of a material. As a sim screen which is going to provide best picture, durability and rebound? Given a proper setup of course

[Psw757]

I'm pretty sure the new mat can be used on the pro and simulator series.

[Cinderellaboy]

I'm also building my setup in a stall of my 3-car garage. Difference for me is I have had a pro series net for years, which is a fantastic product. It works great for a garage stall because it's only 8 feet wide. Sim series is similar. But given I already have the pro , I'm going to buy the new and improved screen and do a ceiling mount for the projector. If it doesn't work out, then I'll upgrade later to a proper enclosure. But it's tough to find a good enclosure that is narrow enough for a garage stalk which makes the sim series appealing despite being overpriced.


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