Mevo+ Pro Package with Fusion Tracking & D-Plane Dataset(Club Path, Dynamic Loft etc)

[aussiebenny]

Just posting it here also since it's technically a new product release from Flightscope which may be of interest to those in the market for a new LM.

Soon, Mevo+ can be bought with the Pro package for $3k total outright (or $1k upgrade for existing owners) to get the new Fusion Tracking capability and full D-Plane Dataset. There are no additional annual subscription or license fees to use the Mevo+ with its bundled apps, or with third party apps.

With the Mevo+ Pro Package add-on option, golfers will gain access to 11 additional performance data parameters that enables them to take their practice, instruction, and club fitting sessions to the next level. The newly added data points constitute the entire club D-plane dataset, namely: club path, face to path, face to target, vertical swing plane, horizontal swing plane, low point, dynamic loft, and curve, as well as additional bonus data like: club speed profile, club acceleration profile, and ball vertical decent angle.

Full press release here: https://thegolfwire.com/flightscope-mevo-pro-package/
More info on Flightscope website: https://www.flightscopemevo.com/propackage/

[aussiebenny]

Official announcement:

https://twitter.com/FlightScopeGolf/status/1452987518807384074

Live announcement @ 10/26 13:00 ET
https://twitter.com/FlightScopeGolf/...52268646510604

[aussiebenny]

I just watched the Flightscope Instagram Live video.

Key takeaways were:

- Pro package launch date is January 22 (PGA Show). One time upgrade fee of $1000.
- It basically makes the Mevo+ into "Mevo+ Pro" unit for life. (it cannot be decoupled, hence transferrable)
- Club path / face to path accuracy will be wiithin 1 degree (confirmed by Henri himself in the video)
- Pro package club data are all measured, made possible by the separate fusion tracking upgrade.
- There may be a promotional upgrade price for existing Mevo+ owners before the launch

- Face impact location will be X3-only and won't be added to Mevo+ pro package.
- No club face stickers are needed.
- Club head speed tracking (with swing plane) without hitting a ball is also coming. (ready by PGA show)

- Fusion tracking is a free firmware upgrade to all Mevo+ units and is not part of the pro package.
- Fusion tracking firmware upgrade may come sooner than the PGA show
- Fusion tracking will improve accuracy for all clubs
- Built-in camera is good enough. There may be a lighting requirement however.

- Titleist Pro V1 RCT balls were tested with good results. Joint press release will happen soon.

- FS Golf PC app is coming but won't be ready by PGA show. So seems it'll be later.
- They are trying to migrate most things into a single FS Golf app. (even some VX stuff)

[fortner28]

I am curious to see how accuracy improves with this technology. The Skytrak is supposedly just a bit better for indoor accuracy now but will this change after fusion tracking?

[Virtualadam]

Thanks for the fantastic summary! Wow - super pumped about all these enhancements, from club tracking, to single app, to further integrations.All packed into a small super-portable unit…

[wbond]

So why would people go for an x3 now. Surely not just for ball impact location.

[aussiebenny]

X3 is a full radar tracking device that can track the full ball flight to when it lands even 250 yards away. Mevo+ is a partial tracking device and only tracks up to roughly 90-100 yards or so of ball flight. They also say X3 is also more powerful and has more sensors, so should be more sensitive and more accurate with smaller tolerances than the Mevo+ I guess.

[bubbtubbs]

It also auto-levels, among other things.

[tonybrown32]

Better accuracy with the x3. Not to say Mevo+ isn't accurate, but Mevo+ wasn't intended for professional use either.. it's the consumer level model. I could see professional players and higher level instructors still using x3 for their businesses, getting the highest level of accuracy available, impact location, auto levelling, and I think there are a few other training apps like wedge practice still only available on x3.

Agreed, the space between Mevo+ and x3 has now narrowed quite a bit with the pro-package additions. I also think a fair number of average consumers won't bother with, nor do they "need" all the D-plane data. However it is a great optional addition for higher level amateurs and coaches that have some really good swing knowledge.. or nerds like me that tinker with club building and play a few competitive amateur events each year... but a lot of average golfers (unlike the rest of us golf geeks and enthusiasts here in these forums) really won't have a clue how to best use the information provided in the pro-package.

[Fit2Win]

I think $1k upgrade for existing users is crazy. They should provide for free given all the issues we had during the past year with all the updates and roll backs required. Any thoughts?

[tonybrown32]

Although I LOVE free stuff... I think the $1k upgrade is reasonable for those data parameters... still puts Mevo+ at $3k all in... for all the data you'll ever need, without ANY annual subscription needs... yeah, it was a rough year.. but not sure I'd blame it all on Flightscope. Been a rough year for everyone with supply issues, staff issues, etc...

I'm extremely happy Flightscope hasn't latched onto the subscription model like so many other companies have. Of course there are those that do like the subscription model too. I'd prefer companies offer both options actually... or maybe some model like $1k lifetime purchase, or a $250/yr fee.. and if you renew 4 consecutive years, it turns into a lifetime license... lots of ways to do that. In the end, it's still a business.

Fusion Tracking is free for everyone though.. which "should" help increase accuracy, but that's yet to be seen.

[Cbushack26]

I admittedly have not had to deal with any of the “early adopter” issues - I don’t yet have one - but I was leaning Mevo+ before this news and this development pushed me to place an order yesterday. Would it have been amazing to get this additional functionality for free? Sure, but I also am totally fine with the upcharge, particularly when you compare what you get to the other offerings on the market. On top of that, the one-time cost of it is appreciated. I see it as the cost of having an ever-evolving device and this isn’t just a small step. I’m sure this will help push sales, but the folks at FS can’t keep doing great work if they aren’t getting something from it. I hope they can work out a discount for existing users, even if I am not eligible.

I’ll be interested to see how accurate it is, particularly in a short indoor environment. I’m sold on the device even if it turns out to not be so accurate with the new data points - I’ll just stick with the base offering as it’s probably all the data I really need (although, I’ve got to imagine my curiosity will have me buying in eventually).

[DS12]

That's where I'm at. It works well for me in my environment and while I probably don't need these extra parameters, I'm definitely interested in them to make this a "mini-x3"

[Gresh12]

This upgrade has basically kept me with Mevo+ and I have zero issues paying for the extra parameters. The Titleist ball has also helped me decide.

I was very close to buying a GC3 or LP because I wanted swing path and a nice win would have been better spin data. My spin data is good other than driver and maybe a touch suspect on 3 wood at times so I’ll live with it but I’m also hopeful the new ball and fusion tracking will improve this.

What I couldn’t get my head around with Foresight is they can sell the hardware at $3k but need an exhorbitant price for software (either one time or annual). They are taking a big gamble if the $3k device is a total loss leader (I.e., production cost exceeds this) so to me they are really just over pricing software when there are good options available at reasonable prices. I would actually stomach some of their pricing if it had all the courses included but $4k on software then hundreds of dollars to add a course is crazy to me.

Bit of a digression above but Flightscope has my kudos on how they’ve handled this. I like free things also but I knew what I was getting at $2k when I bought the unit and I kept saying here within 5 years we’ll get all data for under $5k from somebody (most Didnt agree) and here we are well under that in price and timing.

I was one of the last customers to miss the first shipment (so I’m early batch 2) and I’d consider my journey on a new device almost problem free (only issues I’ve had are driver is off) but I will admit I rarely putt as I dislike sim putting in general.

[jvh42]

Gresh I am in the same shipment batch as you, was one of the first units to ship out once South Africa got out of hardcore lockdown. I too was initially interested in the GC3 but as you said their pricing structure is just asinine. I think with the new updates to fusion tracking and eventually the pro version, the mevo+ will be even better than it already is. It does struggle with spin indoors at times but does get all the other ball data correct, at least to what I expect it to be upon impact. However when I take it outside on the range it’s an absolute champ and really makes my practice sessions that much better.

[Mirek_62]

[aussiebenny]

This is the full video recording of the recent Q&A with Henri (founder of Flightscope). It's a must watch video for those interested in knowing more about Fusion Tracking and Pro Package, as well as many other stuff around Titleist RCT and other sim software integration etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC9SZOoT1Po

Few key takeaways for me were: (not full summary this time)

1. Pro package "may" include a better E6 package. Possibly with more courses. (I would prefer a PC license tbh)

2. Fusion tracking does make the existing club parameters more accurate. (not so much the ball spin however)

3. Titleist RCT. He said it should be awesome and as good as it gets. Software integration is needed to make best use of it.

4. They seem to want to take advantage of Windows 11 supporting Android apps. (which obviously means they don't need to create a separate PC app) He actually didn't mention about a dedicated PC app at all. Hopefully he just forgot to mention it.

5. pro package club data will be sent to tgc 2019 and other software. Integration is being worked on.

[Bubba22]

Thanks Aussie. As well it looks like existing owners may be able to get the Pro package update sooner and with a undisclosed discount.

[aussiebenny]

Yeah. I assume it'll be around 10%. If it's something more significant such as a 50% discount for existing owners, then I would be getting it instantly for sure and I'm sure many would do the same.

Another thing I'm curious to know is if the TGC 2019 ball flight model will become more accurate / realistic with the extra club data or not. But I doubt Flightscope would be able to answer that, and would more need to come from Protee?

[Bubba22]

50% would be amazing. TGC flight model is ball only so club data will not change it. Club data on TGC is calculated but now with Mevo plus that measured club data will be displayed.

[DividedSky]

FYI - there's a one week sale on the Mevo+. $200 off and free shipping with promo code FALLSO at www.flightscopemevo.com

[jdang307]

I just bought one right now, but used GungHo's link. Same price, free shipping, wasn't charged tax. Extra benefits are:

Advantages of buying your Mevo+ from Gungho Golf

• You'll get our world-class support for the life of your unit, on top of support from FlightScope
• You'll get our free advice in all aspects of your home simulator room
• After your purchase, ask us for a coupon code for a 5% discount on our mats, impact screens, and projectors

Gunghogolf is a fellow enthusiast so why not buy from their store.

https://store.gunghogolf.com/FlightScope-Mevo-Launch-Monitor-p180297324

[GungHoGolf]

Thanks for the plug

[jdang307]

Get mine Thursday. Time to sell the GC2!

[aussiebenny]

I'm with you on that one. Especially when money is of concern. It's not like GC Quad is going to make me become a scratch marker any quicker. I've been there when LM didn't even exist anyways. Are you using it mainly indoors? How roomy is your setup?

[DS12]

jdang307 I'm not faulting the decision because I have a Mevo+ and for my game it is accurate enough. Yes sometimes it shows something a little off, but majority of the time it's great

[jdang307]

aussiebenny yeah indoors 20 feet total. I thought it was 18 but I forgot to measure under a desk I have in the back. Lol.

DS12 my strikes have so much variation I’ll never know if it’s my strike or LM that’s off. 😂

[games]

For those interested, the RCT versions of the ProV1 balls are available to order at Titleist.com!

[drawplayer87]

I hope there will be some kind of visual representation of the new data…that would be awesome instead of just numbers, but love this upgrade for sure!