Is anyone happy with their Full Swing Simulator?

[DS12]

I believe Full Swing, HD Golf, About Golf were the premier indoor golf simulators. I still think their hardware is very good, but they've rested on that, similar to how Foresight has kept their FSX graphics less than desirable for so long, but their hardware is outstanding.

Now that there are other competitors Full Swing (at least and maybe About Golf) is trying to come to market with something smaller more consumer friendly because they saw a market opportunity.

I think Skytrak in itself wasn't a huge concern until COVID hit and you saw a flood of people trying to get a garage simulator set up.

[Cinderellaboy]

Im not trying to be a troll, but I am honestly curious what the attraction is to a system like FS (or About Golf, HD Golf etc) vs industry standards like TM or Foresight? There are certainly cheaper alternatives to TM/FSight that make a ton of $ense (Unekor, Skytrack etc). But for these systems where cost is the same or more, I do not get it. If you love golf enough to spend the cash, dedicate/build the space etc, why not use the superior hardware esp when these companies now fully committed to the indoor sim space and particularly in TMs case have excellent software or in FSights case can plug into other good software?

FSwing in particular clearly has a huge marketing budget, but are folks really not seeing right through that with a little research?

[MNW]

With their monthly software updates the proprietary Full Swing Golf software is slowly but steadily getting better. Still way short of e6, but FSG has delivered several new courses this summer and most of the serious glitches seem to have been worked out. Need to continue adding features -- hopefully they're not distracted by the new launch monitor product.

[MNW]

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[e4chan]

Has anyone else install/choose a Full swing solution lately? Have they changed their service levels?

Doesn't appear that this is an active group.

[GolfNash]

Fantastic setup, mine is in a large office, but I do have a shower. Hope your FSG is tuned in by now. I went with the GC Hawk.

[dwomble]

MNW

How loud is your ion3 fan? Mine seems to be much louder than the projector, which is a surprise. (It's also more of a loud whir than a normal fan sound.)
Mine is very loud, much louder that my projector

How long does the new (proprietary) FSG Software take to "prepare the round" when launching a fresh game?
Close to 2 minutes to load - seems like an eternity

Do you have a rubber/plastic plug for a tee in your hitting mat or do you only rely on sticking tees directly into the mat?
I cut my mat and installed a driving range rubber plug. I broke a tee every time I used one in the mat due to the Plywood under the mat.

How obvious are the seams between the sections of your hitting mat? Do they even out over time? Looks to me like the center mat is thicker/taller than the side mats...
I have had mine for 6 months and the mats are still not even and have big seams that you can even see the tack boards below.

[MNW]

Can other FSG users help to answer a few questions now that I've upgraded to the new hardware and software:

How loud is your ion3 fan? Mine seems to be much louder than the projector, which is a surprise. (It's also more of a loud whir than a normal fan sound.)

How long does the new (proprietary) FSG Software take to "prepare the round" when launching a fresh game?

Do you have a rubber/plastic plug for a tee in your hitting mat or do you only rely on sticking tees directly into the mat?

How obvious are the seams between the sections of your hitting mat? Do they even out over time? Looks to me like the center mat is thicker/taller than the side mats...

[Dax]

Brettster it is. I believe he has been interview in that studio and has confirmed those things during the interviews. I think it was part of the same series actually.

[MNW]

I have had a Full Swing sim for a couple of years now, and definitely happy.

First, I checked and I do have Trugolf e6 v1.6. I use it almost exclusively for the range because of all the shortcomings (elevation, etc). For practice, it is everything I need to dial the swing (save angle of attack and dynamic loft).

The new Full Swing software has really great courses, but it is so raw right now. I do enjoy playing the courses, and have made all the same requests you have to the product teams...if they are looking to transition to a subscription model, their updates are going to have to come fast and hard.

I was one of the first customers on the Ion 3 cameras...and had a bunch of issues that they worked with me on. Those issues have mostly been solved at this point - again, aside from the rawness of the new software. Outdoor range work matches sim work almost exactly, as far as I can tell.

The good news is, Full Swing knows what they need to build in the new software (e6 features and customer requests), they just need to really start investing there. I am totally satisfied with e6 for range work and Full Swing for playing courses, even if there are issues with how realistic it is right now.

I'm very encouraged to hear this. I'll join the chorus providing FSG feedback on its new software once I complete the upgrades.

[MNW]

Tiger Woods Fixes Amateur Golf Swings - Bing video Check out this video. I believe Tiger is in his home golf studio. I can't tell what the setup is.

The unique wall on the left (with the big white rectangles) suggests that this is the same studio (in Tiger's home) as FSG shows on their website.

[crnkovcm]

I have had a Full Swing sim for a couple of years now, and definitely happy.

First, I checked and I do have Trugolf e6 v1.6. I use it almost exclusively for the range because of all the shortcomings (elevation, etc). For practice, it is everything I need to dial the swing (save angle of attack and dynamic loft).

The new Full Swing software has really great courses, but it is so raw right now. I do enjoy playing the courses, and have made all the same requests you have to the product teams...if they are looking to transition to a subscription model, their updates are going to have to come fast and hard.

I was one of the first customers on the Ion 3 cameras...and had a bunch of issues that they worked with me on. Those issues have mostly been solved at this point - again, aside from the rawness of the new software. Outdoor range work matches sim work almost exactly, as far as I can tell.

The good news is, Full Swing knows what they need to build in the new software (e6 features and customer requests), they just need to really start investing there. I am totally satisfied with e6 for range work and Full Swing for playing courses, even if there are issues with how realistic it is right now.

[Brettster]

Thanks, that's interesting... He definitely has a 'Full Swing' logo mat down on the floor. If that is his home studio, it sure seems it is a Full Swing Golf setup, maybe someone that has a full swing setup can look at that and see if there is some way to identify that is what he's playing in there?

[GullLakeMi]

Tiger Woods Fixes Amateur Golf Swings - Bing video Check out this video. I believe Tiger is in his home golf studio. I can't tell what the setup is.

[DS12]

Brettster saw it mentioned on another forum, not 100% certain

I don't think the Full Swing simulators give bad data it was more graphics wise it was underwhelming. Which has been the case with Foresight as well. Their data was great and accurate, the software was lacking compared to other simulators