To be real or not to be real?

[Maverick]

Set Optishot for real life distances or not?

[Mike80]

Hey Willy! Yeah, there may not be a noticeable setting for the user to boost there swing. However, there are definitely ways to boost in probably a configuration file or some other way. All the simulators pretty much have the ability to tweak numbers. That way when a customer complains they can remote in and help and change numbers on there setup. For example there is a local indoor golf establishment that uses About Golf simulators. I know many people that agree that their distances and speeds seem high. Again the About Golf simulators are 50K+ and high end. So my thinking is they probably "slightly" boost numbers so players don't play as bad and don't want to come back...LOL. Sad but true! If you can test on a Trackman, Flightscope or GC2 that will give you a real true estimate of your swing speed.

[Maverick]

There is no option for boost on hd golf. The place I go to doesn't sell clubs so if there was a option why would he use boost

It might not be boosted by the owner. It could just be how HD Golf wants it. Indoor golf facility owners will always choose ease of use over accuracy any day. It could also be generously using the wrong estimated spin.

[JohnMeyer]

Mike also great suggestion about club selection pre round etc. I think tomorro I'll be writing up my full and final proposed guidelines which id urge you all to read as if agree please write your support for as The Board ( of which I am not part) have said that they wish to act upon the wishes of the players as best they can. They need this to be fully read and agreed upon as best we can, backed up by evidence, Which I think we have, and then they will review fully and hopefully implement

Thank you all for your constant suggestions and work on this. If anyone wants to come up with some solid NO BALL. Setting numbers I think that's all we'll need to get this finalised

[fhann]

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Screen shots of HD Golf simulator output from Jan 4 2015.

[Willymakit]

Hey Willy! Yeah, there may not be a noticeable setting for the user to boost there swing. However, there are definitely ways to boost in probably a configuration file or some other way. All the simulators pretty much have the ability to tweak numbers. That way when a customer complains they can remote in and help and change numbers on there setup. For example there is a local indoor golf establishment that uses About Golf simulators. I know many people that agree that their distances and speeds seem high. Again the About Golf simulators are 50K+ and high end. So my thinking is they probably "slightly" boost numbers so players don't play as bad and don't want to come back...LOL. Sad but true! If you can test on a Trackman, Flightscope or GC2 that will give you a real true estimate of your swing speed.

I could have a million dollar set up and I feel it wouldn't matter in this forum...

[HWoods]

I could have a million dollar set up and I feel it wouldn't matter in this forum...

That works both ways. I got no idea how far you hit it and honestly I believe you can hit it 290, its not an absurd number. But we think HD Golf isn't the proof..

[PUNTE]

Re hitting 290: Tested some drivers at PGASS last weekend and thought I would show my stats. I'm a pull/draw hitter off the tee and the majority of these were "in play," especially the STRAIGHT 202-yard shot where I grounded the driver before it hit the tee.

The R5 and R7 are actually my clubs; I have both of them in my current clubset.

[MatalaWedge]

I'm going to try and get on Trackman today too. Not sure if my buddy is in Portugal teaching or just sitting at the store waiting for me to pop in though. Hoping for the best. Don't really want to pay the 90 bucks an hour for walk in customer though so I'm hoping I can just walk in and hit a few bombs while catching up....

Edit: Maybe not. Have to go home and do the Playoff...

[Willymakit]

That works both ways. I got no idea how far you hit it and honestly I believe you can hit it 290, its not an absurd number. But we think HD Golf isn't the proof..

So I noticed punte put some stats up and if you look at his swings. They are all in the neighbourhood of 285 avg with a 118 mph swing. Those are almost exactly the stats I would get. So thanks punte for saving me time and money to prove my point that I been saying from day one. And this looks like it's used to calibrate was a trackman. So I think this conversion is done and I can go to the board with this information and go back to my settings I had previously.

[Wild_Dog]

Played last night with a buddy. IRL he is a 4 cap and hits driver 290-300 all day long, GPS verified. I normally hit it 280. On the optishot last night...same driver and same setup. He hits it 280-290 with an average of 113mph swing speed. I hit it over 300 pretty much everytime with a 115-120mph swing speed. My normal swing speed is 110mph so unless I gained 10mph over the last few months because of beer the optishot isn't accurate enough for this type of testing. Again...we played together with the same ping g15 taped driver.

[Willymakit]

Played last night with a buddy. IRL he is a 4 cap and hits driver 290-300 all day long, GPS verified. I normally hit it 280. On the optishot last night...same driver and same setup. He hits it 280-290 with an average of 113mph swing speed. I hit it over 300 pretty much everytime with a 115-120mph swing speed. My normal swing speed is 110mph so unless I gained 10mph over the last few months because of beer the optishot isn't accurate enough for this type of testing. Again...we played together with the same ping g15 taped driver.

I have said this before that the swing speed is off compared to the distance you are getting. Even though I feel the distance is right. To make it bang on so both match up. Go and set speed at 105 and distance at 90. That's bang on for 280 yard drive.

Are you using real or foam ball and settings.

Until this big debate came up I never tried hitting a foam ball. What I did find with hitting a foam ball set at 100/100 was getting to 130ss with a 330yard drives. So the settings they have come up with now are pretty close.

But here is what I found out from playing a foam ball. You know that feeling when you hit a drive off the heel or toe with a real ball the club will torque and your club will twist that's why I was getting 12 degrees closed some of the time. And maybe the reason for that is. I play with a stiff shaft on the optishot and extra stuff with 72 gram shat IRl.

So back the the foam ball I get no more 12 degree shots. I'm down to the 3 degree which is more accurate for my swing IRl.

[Wild_Dog]

real ball and aftermarket turf. But you aren't understanding the gist of my post. Regardless of the results on the optishot I don't hit it past my buddy in real life. But on Optishot with the same driver and same setup I blow it by him. 100% distance and swing speed for both of us. He hits it pretty close to his real life results. I hit it 20 yards further. So trying to make a standard won't work. The system isn't accurate enough for that. If you really want to dial back the scores it has nothing to do with how far we are hitting driver. I watch the streams and some of you guys have tour caliber iron games. Pin seeking every shot.

[Wild_Dog]

http://www.golfwrx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CarryDistanceSwingSpeedChart.jpg

[Willymakit]

real ball and aftermarket turf. But you aren't understanding the gist of my post. Regardless of the results on the optishot I don't hit it past my buddy in real life. But on Optishot with the same driver and same setup I blow it by him. 100% distance and swing speed for both of us. He hits it pretty close to his real life results. I hit it 20 yards further. So trying to make a standard won't work. The system isn't accurate enough for that. If you really want to dial back the scores it has nothing to do with how far we are hitting driver. I watch the streams and some of you guys have tour caliber iron games. Pin seeking every shot.

Maybe the reason for that is because of a few things optishot doesn't pick up. And that launch angle and ball spin So maybe in real life you actually swing harder then him, but not having the numbers to go that distance. I'm not here for a debate I know where your coming from. You also have to understand its a400 dollar machine. So take it for what's it worth.

And your right about pin seeking. The optishot only reads speed and club angle and that's about it. And if you can figure out how to keep club on a straight line and straight club face. You can shoot low scores.

[Joe_S]

real ball and aftermarket turf. But you aren't understanding the gist of my post. Regardless of the results on the optishot I don't hit it past my buddy in real life. But on Optishot with the same driver and same setup I blow it by him. 100% distance and swing speed for both of us. He hits it pretty close to his real life results. I hit it 20 yards further. So trying to make a standard won't work. The system isn't accurate enough for that. If you really want to dial back the scores it has nothing to do with how far we are hitting driver. I watch the streams and some of you guys have tour caliber iron games. Pin seeking every shot.

This seems to be the distance from the turf. Nearer to the sensor gives you a higher swing speed, I assume...