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  • Proposed New Online Play Guidelines for the Optishot Online Tour - final draft

    The Optishot Tour Management Board

    1. The Optishot Tour Board consists of 4 Board Members and a Tour Secretary.

    2. They will manage The Optishot Online Tour, managing the guidelines and tournaments, as well as overseeing the integrity and regulations of play by all members.

    3. They will review all applications for setting changes and review all evidence provided before making their decision. They must publish a formal statement relating to the setting change if approved

    4. They will handle all reports of breaches of the following guidelines by way of a closed discussion, and administer the penalties in accordance with the guidelines below. They must publish formal statements relating to the breach and penalty applied.

    5. They have the powers to apply leniency in the event of supporting evidence. In such event a full disclosure of the information and reason for leniency must be published alongside the statement to not award/reduce the penalty.

    6. A current list of Board Members is found at


    http://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum/...-online-league



    Ball Settings

    1. Players MUST set the ball type to the actual ball they are physically hitting. Players are to hit either a Real ball or Foam ball if their setup allows, due to unreliable data from the No Ball setting.


    Clubset Settings

    1. Players Driver settings MUST be set the to following, dependant on the ball and turf type they are using.

    a. Real Ball, Stock Turf - 100% Speed, 88% Distance.............

    b. Real Ball, Thick Turf - 100% Speed 88% Distance...............

    c. Foam Ball, Stock Turf - 93% Speed, 88% Distance.............

    d. Foam Ball, Thick Turf - 100% Speed, 88% Distance..............

    e. No Ball Setting - 100% Speed 88% Distance ......................

    2. Players MUST set the Loft Setting of all clubs to the loft of the club they are physically hitting

    3. If using a 3 wood instead of Driver due to Height Restrictions Use Identical settings to those you would normally use as per your ball and turf setup above.

    4. 3 wood and 5 wood MUST NOT exceed Speed % relative to your own personal ball and turf setup as above, but Distance % Settings MAY be up to MAX 100% Most players seem to find 100 % Speed, 100 % Distance is perfect, however if you find distances are long then set to 100% Speed 90% Distance or whatever it is to make them correct. Loft setting may have an effect here as with the irons

    5. Players Irons MUST be set to achieve real world distances and both Speed% and Distance % settings may be altered up or down to achieve the correct distances.

    6. Players may set the Putter Speed % Setting between 80% and 100% to reflect there real life Putting stroke. The Distance % MUST remain at 100%
    When Putting, players MUST hit either a real or foam ball, unless using the No Ball Setting for the whole round.

    7. Players MUST NOT carry out any adjustments to any Clubset Settings during a round.

    8. Any individual Driver, 3 or 5 wood settings outside of the above guidelines may be adjusted to a different % ONLY if evidence from an external device, ie TRACKMAN/GC2/FLIGHTSCOPE etc can prove without doubt that a persons Swing Speed/Distance is not being accurately read by Optishot and an adjustment away from the settings above is required. This change would need to be approved by the Board on a case by case basis.

    9 - Penalty . Anyone found in breach of the above settings or using settings for any club to falsely significantly improve their ability or gameplay (ie, hitting a PW 250 yards) shall be removed from the Tournament and/or face further action as the Board do see fit. Minor breaches may be subject to stroke penalties or warnings at the discrepancy of The Board on a case by case basis



    ​Trajectory Settings

    1. The Highest Trajectory setting MUST NEVER be used off the tee or for approach shots from the fairway/rough purely in order to gain yardage but is to be used in situations when a higher trajectory is required to clear obstacles or obstructions. All other trajectory settings may be used and altered at any time with any club during a round

    2 - Penalty - Anyone found in breach of the above guideline shall be awarded a 2 stroke penalty for each individual offence.



    Screen Recording Requirement

    1. All Players MUST record/stream their rounds and upload them via Twitch or Youtube within 24 hours of completing their round

    2. Before starting their round the video MUST show the Players Ball Setting and Clubset Settings for EVERY club.

    3. Videos MAY be recorded at double speed and lower quality to reduce upload times. However the video stream MUST be of a quality good enough that Ball, Clubset Details and general play is viewable and able to be assessed for any breaches of guidelines.

    4. A link to your uploaded video/past broadcast must be put in the relevant tournament forum thread to allow Players and Board members to verify your round


    5. There are multiple software options for recording your gameplay. The common one used by many Players is the OBS software, which as well as making recordings to your computer, would also allow to you to stream your rounds live for all to see. Full instructions describing how to setup the OBS software can be found here:




    6. If the settings from the above thread do not work sufficiently for your hardware/internet speed, please read through the settings guide in the link below as OBS software has a variety of settings that can be changed to hopefully allow live streaming and direct uploading to Twitch, all be it at a lower quality

    http://help.twitch.tv/customer/porta...aster-software

    7 - Penalty - Anyone who fails to upload their round within 24 hours shall be removed from the Tournament. If you believe you will be unable to upload do to issues outside of your control please contact The Board to discuss other arrangements. Failure to post a link in the forum thread may also result in removal from the tournament, so don't forget.

    8. - Reporting - If when viewing another Players uploaded video you spot what you believe to be a breach of any of these guidelines you are to report it to The Board, giving the Players Name, a link to the video, the breach you wish to report, and the time that the proposed breach occurs.



    Gameplay Format

    1. Tournaments will be either set in 2-4 Rounds for each Event. Matches will be created on Wednesday for 2 Round Tournament, and Monday for Majors. Invitations, sent directly to your Optishot and notified via Email, will go out on Thursday for 2 Round, and Tuesday for Majors, so you can join the matches that were created in Optishot Online Room. Please Pay attention to the Round you enter. TourRD1A means round 1 first group. TourRD1B means round 1 second group and so on.

    2. 2 Round Tournaments will begin on Thursday, and 4 Round Majors will start on Tuesday, both Tournaments will End Sunday Night at 10PM EST, all rounds need to be completed so Tournament can be close out. Invites however may go out earlier but the dates for each tournament will be published in the tournament specific thread on these forums. If all Rounds are not completed then a Player will be given a final score of DNF and place last in the Event.

    3. Once you begin a Round you must complete that Round. If you exit the Round before completion you will be disqualified from the Tournament. However if this is due to circumstance beyond your control, ie power cut or software error, this will be dealt with on a case by case basis by the Board, using the Video Recording/Streaming of the event as evidence


    ****************** Scorecard


    1. After accepting your invite and when starting your round on Optishot you must also select Play Round for the corresponding round on the My Tournaments tab on the ****************** website

    2. Scores for all Rounds will be entered in Live format. Entry will be done after completion of each hole and player must enter score the for each on the website. This will give players the opportunity to know where they sit during game play and give live in running scores


    3. All scorecards will be verified and any scorecard that is inaccurate is subject to a 2 stroke penalty for EACH Entry that is incorrect. If it is found that the entry was done on purpose it will result in disqualification from the Tournament
    .

    Handicapping

    1. The ****************** website carrys out automatic handicapping of players based on scores players acheive in completed rounds. However it needs 4 completed rounds worth of data to complete. In order to speed up the process slightly once a player has completed one Tournament a manual assessment of a players handicap will be carried out and they will be assigned an conservative handicap for the next tournament. Once the 2nd tournament has been completed the system should then have enough data to give a Player his automatic handicap. Details of how the Automatic Handicapping System works can be found here

    http://www.******************/info.html

    2. Adjustments to this handicap can also be manually made and currently The Optishot Online Tour does not allow negative handicaps. Because of this the lowest handicap player will always play off of an index of 0. If the System allocated handicap was -4, then that player, and all others will have their handicaps raised by 4 strokes.

    Eg. All player have completed a minimum of 4 rounds and System has assigned them a Handicap of -

    Player 1: Handicap -4
    Player 2: Handicap 2
    Player 3: Handicap 10

    As The Optishot Tour doesn't allow negative handicaps every Player will have 4 strokes added to their Handicap so the for the next tournament:

    Player 1: Handicap 0
    Player 2: Handicap 6
    Player 3: Handicap 14

    A video showing the process is found here




    3. This system is under constant review and possible to change so please keep up to date with the current system discussion on these forums.

    http://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum/...ot-online-tour



    Please read fully and understand rules above, ensure you have the OBS recording software installed and tested, and familiarise yourself with both the Optishot Software, The ****************** website and these forums

    Once you are fully setup and ready to take part in an event, have completed the necessary Clubset Settings, have Screen Recording Software in place, and are fully familiar with all the above Rules and guideline please post below that you have read, fully understood and agree to comply with all the above.

    Welcome to the Optishot Online Tour
    Last edited by JohnMeyer; 01-09-2015, 06:08 PM.

  • #91
    Hey John are you throwing you name in the hat for Tour Secretary??

    Or is that my title??
    Last edited by CatMan; 01-07-2015, 04:31 AM.

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    • #92
      I also tested out some drives again. I think 100 speed and 88 distance is pretty close on thick turf and foam ball. I turned my SS down the other night when testing because I think 90 distance was a bit high. 100 and 88 yielded an average swing speed of 108 mph and distance of 270 total yards. That's a ratio of exactly 2.5. Not sure what you guys were getting with the other setups. That is almost dead on my real life distance. I don't carry it 270 yards but my ball rolls out to right around that 270-275 mark. Video below.

      Last edited by Vincent_Vega; 01-07-2015, 04:37 AM.

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      • #93
        JohnMeyer, the rules and guidelines look great! Thanks so much for devoting your time into finalizing the rules with everyone's suggestions. I agree with Buckeye's comments about including more detail on the penalty and that a public statement should be made if a penalty is addressed. I think most penalties will result in a 2 stroke penalty. However, if a player becomes a frequent rule breaker, then that is where I think we apply the 30 Day Suspension.

        I would say a good way to evaluate this is, the board gives stroke penalties for the round the player breaks rules. Then if the next round the player continues to break the rules that's where the board may address the 30 Day Suspension and DQ for that round. Then again if frequent rules are broken after suspension then kicked off the tournament. The board will have to vote and make those types of decisions of course.

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        • #94
          I disagree Mike. 2 stroke penalty for minor stuff such as putting with no ball or something similar. Blatant cheating should result in a 30 day suspension for the first offense. No messing around.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Zmax View Post
            I disagree Mike. 2 stroke penalty for minor stuff such as putting with no ball or something similar. Blatant cheating should result in a 30 day suspension for the first offense. No messing around.
            We need to be ABSOLUTELY sure it is cheating and not just absent-mindedness... No room for error here. We can't go kicking out a sleepdeprived father of 3 kids for just playing for fun and having his mind in neutral every now and then. (yes I could be referring to myself... I'm not though) Just believe in innocent until PROVEN guilty.

            But in the extreme situation where someone truly knows he's cheating and does it anyway... sure... kick him out.
            Last edited by MatalaWedge; 01-07-2015, 08:59 AM.

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            • #96
              Of course. all that stuff is up to the board to decide. All I'm saying is you put out guidelines and spell out severe punishment to deter even the thought of cheating.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Zmax View Post
                Of course. all that stuff is up to the board to decide. All I'm saying is you put out guidelines and spell out severe punishment to deter even the thought of cheating.
                We are on the same page. Just throwing the "reasonable doubt" - phrase out there to make sure we know not to make hasty decisions.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by CatMan View Post
                  Hey John are you throwing you name in the hat for Tour Secretary??

                  Or is that my title??

                  I had you down as Tour Secretary. I dont know if that title translates as well to American organisations as it does in UK, but normally The Secretary of a Club here in UK is the main administrator of matters relating to a club and I think that describes you role perfectly

                  You are the main man for organising the tournaments, invites and also act as a middle man between the Players and The Board

                  Im not looking to take on a formal role, but more than happy to keep throwing my input in and carry out anything that you or the Board would like. I wouldn't want to take on the Secretary Role as I believe you already do that job perfectly, however if you would like me to take on a role on The Board in some capacity, be it for Overseeing Guidelines or something like that then be happy to help.

                  Although I have had lots of time over the holidays I am a beef farmer here in the UK and as such my work can results in some strange hours and availability too so I wont always be asvisibkle as perhaps I have been over the last couple of weeks

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Vincent_Vega View Post
                    I also tested out some drives again. I think 100 speed and 88 distance is pretty close on thick turf and foam ball. I turned my SS down the other night when testing because I think 90 distance was a bit high. 100 and 88 yielded an average swing speed of 108 mph and distance of 270 total yards. That's a ratio of exactly 2.5. Not sure what you guys were getting with the other setups. That is almost dead on my real life distance. I don't carry it 270 yards but my ball rolls out to right around that 270-275 mark. Video below.

                    http://youtu.be/Q0qNQx8Rkrk

                    I think this may also fit in with what Willmakit and Joe were thinking too. Thick Turf settins will always be slightly vague as there is no set definition of what consitutes "Thick Turf",

                    Yours may be thicker than some one elses "Thick Turf"

                    As you say now weve lowered distance from 90 to 88 perhaps we should increase speed from 98 to 100 to make it balance out.

                    Ill await others feedback but i certainly have no issue with it, especially if as you say it gives a more accurate setup

                    Ill check ou tthe video now and see what the ratios are, as dont want them getting too high, which is what wil happen if swing speed % is increased
                    Last edited by JohnMeyer; 01-07-2015, 10:55 AM.

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                    • Just checked video and as you say gives the perfect ratio at 100 88,

                      As this is video evidence proving the ratio and that it is correct setting and previous testing settings were indeed completed at 98/89, I think it is very reasonable and correct that the setting be amended to read 100/88

                      I am concerned that for some people using a slightly thinner turf than Vega uses it may result in an increased distance but I cant think there are that many variations and the 2% increase will only result in minor increases

                      I am therefore going to update the proposed guidelines.

                      I have managed to Edit the Opening Post now so current proposed guideline are now fully updated on the Opening Post of this thread.


                      As a result of this we could simplify the Club Setting guidelines now, as all settings now have 88% Distance setting and all settings other than Foam Ball Stock Turf have 100% Speed Setting so Guidelines could now read

                      All Players Driver Distance Setting MUST be set to 88% Distance

                      Drive Speed Setting MUST remain at 100%, HOWEVER if using a FOAM Ball with Stock turf the Speed Setting MUST be reduced to 93%



                      This would simplify the Clubset guidelines significantly, ill await your feedback before making the change.


                      Last edited by JohnMeyer; 01-07-2015, 01:26 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by JohnMeyer View Post
                        Just checked video and as you say gives the perfect ratio at 100 88,

                        As this is video evidence proving the ratio and that it is correct setting and previous testing settings were indeed completed at 98/89, I think it is very reasonable and correct that the setting be amended to read 100/88

                        I am concerned that for some people using a slightly thinner turf than Vega uses it may result in an increased distance but I cant think there are that many variations and the 2% increase will only result in minor increases

                        I am therefore going to update the proposed guidelines.

                        I have managed to Edit the Opening Post now so current proposed guideline are now fully updated on the Opening Post of this thread.


                        As a result of this we could simplify the Club Setting guidelines now, as all settings now have 88% Distance setting and all settings other than Foam Ball Stock Turf have 100% Speed Setting so Guidelines could now read

                        All Players Driver Distance Setting MUST be set to 88% Distance

                        Drive Speed Setting MUST remain at 100%, HOWEVER if using a FOAM Ball with Stock turf the Speed Setting MUST be reduced to 93%



                        This would simplify the Clubset guidelines significantly, ill await your feedback before making the change.

                        After reading the current and proposed wording. I actually think it's more clear how you currently have it worded. Breaking it down by each scenario. Just my opinion. Great job on formulating the guidelines.

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                        • Originally posted by Vincent_Vega View Post

                          After reading the current and proposed wording. I actually think it's more clear how you currently have it worded. Breaking it down by each scenario. Just my opinion. Great job on formulating the guidelines.
                          I agree. Breaking it down should reduce the amount of questions proposed by future members regarding their individual set ups.

                          Another thought I had, do we want to include the tournament rules - no slow or fast greens and no high winds? Or is this still up in the air? I don't think we have discussed or decided on at which point the wind setting becomes to "high" . I know this stuff has been discussed between CatMan and myself but I can't recall if it was discussed publicly or not.

                          I think wind seems to be the greatest issue.

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                          • Originally posted by Buckeye View Post

                            I agree. Breaking it down should reduce the amount of questions proposed by future members regarding their individual set ups.

                            Another thought I had, do we want to include the tournament rules - no slow or fast greens and no high winds? Or is this still up in the air? I don't think we have discussed or decided on at which point the wind setting becomes to "high" . I know this stuff has been discussed between CatMan and myself but I can't recall if it was discussed publicly or not.

                            I think wind seems to be the greatest issue.
                            Wind is the greatest issue we have influencing everything/including Loft... I would like us to keep winds to Moderate and Below, and Gentle and below for fast greens.... that's my feelings on this..

                            Not Strong and above Winds Period.... until the software is toned back, or material is brought forward showing that it is realistic....

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                            • Hey guys, I agree that the wind is completly unrealistic !Even at moderate. It should not affect the putting the way it does. It's a guess and it is stronger than break ! Also if we want to make the course more difficult then the rough setting should never be on easy. Usually if you miss a fairway or green it's tougher to play the hole. Hopefully DD fixes the wind issues. BTW I wonder when they are going to update ? Pins, bugs, tournaments etc ??? Any idea ?
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                              • Originally posted by Maxxx View Post
                                Hey guys, I agree that the wind is completly unrealistic !Even at moderate. It should not affect the putting the way it does. It's a guess and it is stronger than break ! Also if we want to make the course more difficult then the rough setting should never be on easy. Usually if you miss a fairway or green it's tougher to play the hole. Hopefully DD fixes the wind issues. BTW I wonder when they are going to update ? Pins, bugs, tournaments etc ??? Any idea ?
                                Good Point Maxxx,

                                The Rough is an issue too, some courses the settings effect then other courses it doesn't . Another Software issue that needs fixing.... But we can definitely set them for tougher and hope it takes..

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