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  • Gross leaderboard vs Net leaderboard vs both.

    There has been talk occasionally of running 2 leaderboards. The tour has a net leaderboard in which each player plays against their own handicap. While this gives everyone a chance to win with 2 above average rounds, it is difficult for the scratch golfers to show well. The scratch golfer will not have a chance against a 12 handicapper that has a couple of great rounds. I have only used my sim a lot since August. Prior to that I had a shoulder injury that prevented me from playing. Now that I can play a lot (160 rounds since the end of August) I might hold the title of most improved, which means that I have recently showed very well on the net leaderboard. Now that I have had my handicap dropped, my days at the top will be limited. I would really like to set my goals on the gross leaderboard. Okay, I am no threat to the best golfers here but I would be ecstatic if I were to come in the top 3-6 on the gross board. I feel that everyone would benefit from a dual board. Scratch golfers would feel the satisfaction of actually winning and your high handicapper will be happy when they finally put two rounds in the 70's back to back to finish first. Not sure how to work the scoring but that is something that could be discussed prior to the next tour starting. Thanks ProTee for running a great tour.

  • #16
    I thought it was agreed upon to do a separate leaderboard and standings for net and gross. Guess that was going to be too much leg work and won't be implemented until we get the API feature in the next update?

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    • #17
      Didn't get a chance to play RBC with the weather turning warm., Reverse leaderboard too , so no one feels left out???
      Last edited by Boo Radley; 04-19-2016, 01:19 PM.

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      • #18
        I think first we need to know how handicaps are even calculated...cuz I have no idea.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by goatbarn View Post
          I think first we need to know how handicaps are even calculated...cuz I have no idea.
          Calculated???
          My Courses:
          World Par 3's by mthunt
          Toronto GC (L) mthunt
          Burlington G&CC by mthunt
          Weston G&CC by mthunt
          London Hunt Club L mthunt
          Park CC Lidar mthunt
          Sunningdale GC Robinson L
          Sunningdale GC Thompson L
          Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
          Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
          The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
          The National GC L mthunt
          Mississaugua GC L mthunt
          Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
          Markland Woods CC mthunt
          Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
          Magna GC L mthunt
          Barrie CC L mthunt
          mthunt Range

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          • #20
            I agree, for the HCP and thus the net leaderboard to be meaningful, we should know how it is calculated, formulated, maintained, etc. For the online play to flourish, the HCP rules have to be known and appreciated by its participants. @ProTee, please help us. Thank you.

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            • #21
              I think you guys are taking this way too seriously......really who cares how things are calculated. This is supposed to be for fun, its simulator golf.....just saying..............

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              • goatbarn
                goatbarn commented
                Editing a comment
                Sure it's fun, that's why we play...there is no prize of course.

                But maybe it's just me, I enjoy competition. My real value is in gross scores....but for all those non-low handicaps, not knowing that the handicap calculation is accurate/what is represents is frustrating, I would think.

            • #22
              Knowing the HCP rules does not take any fun out of golf, thus, I hope it should not reduce any fun for simulator golf. TGC online play brought us together, I am thankful of that. But respectfully, I happen to think that every participant should be given the option of knowing our HCP rules.

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              • #23
                Originally posted by goatbarn View Post
                Sure it's fun, that's why we play...there is no prize of course.

                But maybe it's just me, I enjoy competition. My real value is in gross scores....but for all those non-low handicaps, not knowing that the handicap calculation is accurate/what is represents is frustrating, I would think.
                I'm pretty sure this echoes how most of us view this, well said. Of course it's just for fun, that goes without saying. But the competitive aspect makes it even more fun. I enjoy playing the tour rounds more than just playing 18 holes on my own. People aren't threatening to quit or anything if the handicap details aren't revealed, they were just curious.

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                • #24
                  I am not too concerned about my handicap. If I play well..... it goes down a bit. I don't..... it goes up. After you have played 5 or 6 tournaments, you will probably find that it is pretty accurate. People that are new to TGC will have a big changes in their handicap due to the learning curve of new software. I know that I started at 18 and within a few weeks was down to 12. They don't make adjustments after each event as far as I know. I would also like to see a gross board as well as handicapped.

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                  • #25
                    We now calculate your handicap based on your scoring of all the tour rounds you played. Nothing fancy.
                    If you want something fancy, just let us know how you want this to be calculated and we will implement.

                    The tour handicap is different from your game handicap. At the moment courses are indexed based on the number of plays which is set to 200 (too much). We decreased this to 10, which means that when a course has been played 11 times, it will get handicap rated by the system. This way you play many more hc rated courses and work on your handicap, so your game handicap will be more accurate, which we can then use in the tour.

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                    • #26
                      sounds good to me...............

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