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  • SkyTrak v3.1 Public Beta

    Hi all,

    As mentioned, I’d like to give you guys the opportunity to take v3.1 for a test drive before we officially release it. As with every other time I’ve done this, please keep comments, questions, and feedback within this thread and DO NOT CONTACT CUSTOMER SUPPORT for anything involving this public beta - I’ll handle everything in this thread. While there are still a few bug/cleanup items to take care of, I’d like to keep this beta period under 1 week.

    Here are the v3.1 Release Notes:

    - Added Shot Optimizer
    - Added SkyTrak Calculated Club Data (Angle of Attack, Dynamic Loft, Swing Path, Face to Path)
    - SkyPro Integration (replaces Club Head Speed, Angle of Attack, Dynamic Loft, and PTI)
    - Club Insights Integration (replaces Club Head Speed, Angle of Attack, Swing Path, Face to Path, and PTI)
    - Improved Club Head Speed Calculations for all clubs
    - Added Fairway Practice
    - Changed Ground Conditions to “Rough” if a Green is Present
    - Fixed Practice Green Hit/Miss bug
    - Fixed Metric/Meters bugs
    - Additional Report/Export Features
    - Miscellaneous Bug Fixes and Improvements

    Here are some additional notes:

    1. Club Data Screen – I initially wanted the club data screen to be a popup, but in testing it proved to be more of an annoyance than a benefit, particularly because I often wanted to see it or the ball flight whenever the other was showing. So, it made more sense in practice to make it a dedicated screen.

    a. SkyTrak Club Data – This is calculated club data based off measured ball data. In testing, it proves very accurate on center-struck shots. At this point, we are still working on improving the data for poorly-struck shots.

    b. Club Insights – This method uses a library of hundreds of thousands of shots hit on various launch monitors that measure club data. It simply matches up our ball data to a shot with the closest comparable ball data and applies the corresponding club data. On release, this will be an add-on package, but they have generously allowed us to include the option in this public beta. Club Insights beta functionality will cease March 11th. If this option is selected, then applicable values turn BLUE in the app.

    c. SkyPro – You can use your SkyPro to supplement some of the calculated club data assuming you have the latest SkyPro app from the app store. Here, you will need 2 devices (Connect the SkyPro to device A, connect the SkyTrak to device B. Device A and B talk to each other over BLE). Device B can be iOS or PC (Windows 8.1 or Windows 10). If this option is selected, then applicable values turn ORANGE in the app. *I understand this is going to be a complicated process for some…and will work on better instructions for release. Not so worried about this portion during this beta period.

    d. R-Motion – Still in development

    e. Since many of you may not wish to integrate with another device nor care to use calculated data, I added a simple Side and Top Profile view with Max Height and Flight Time that you can toggle to instead. This allows you to still take advantage of the Shot Optimizer. (green = in optimal range, yellow = close to optimal range, red = outside optimal range).


    2. Fairway Practice – We think this is a cool new feature that will help you practice your shots shaping. You access it just like practice greens (and there will be more practice areas to come in the future).

    3. To mimic fairway practice, I changed the rest of the field to “rough” conditions when using Practice Greens and Closest to Pin Challenge (Target Challenge uses all fairway ground still). Is this desirable? I can see the 'yes' argument to focus on carry, but can also see the flip-side for those who might like to run it up.

    4. If you get a prompt to upgrade the app when using this beta - IGNORE IT.


    This beta is only for PC (iOS is too hard to distribute outside of the app store)

    http://downloads.skygolf.com/Softwar...ytrakSetup.exe


    Thanks,
    Seth
    Last edited by SkyTrak_Seth; 03-06-2018, 11:18 PM. Reason: Sorry, having formatting trouble with post

  • #2
    OMG, thanks Seth. I am looking forward to trying this out!

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    • #3
      Wow....nothing for iOS....I’m disappointed. Hopefully the iOS version comes out soon.

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      • SkyTrak_Seth
        SkyTrak_Seth commented
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        I'd have to gather UDID's for everyone's device and include in the provisioning profile, just too difficult to manage for a number of reasons. iOS and Android are all at the same spot as PC and will all go live at the same time.

    • #4
      I downloaded and installed it on the BOOTCAMP Windows partition of my Macbook Pro to replace my existing Skytrak app, and the thing crashed immediately as soon as it gets to the driving range screen. I tried to start it again a couple times with the same result so I reinstalled the previous version which works fine.

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        Hmmm, I can't really comment on bootcamp now, but I will certainly look into it.

    • #5
      Thanks, Seth!

      1. Club Insights looks very interesting. Are there any stats available on how close the club data is to actual? On a related note, I am picking up data science as a hobby, very interested in this.

      2. Skypro - Is there any integration beyond clubhead speed. In theory, we would get a reasonable calculated number for face angle if the Skypro measures the path, and Skytrak measures the ball.

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        No data right now on Club Insights vs actual since that is a 3rd party. But SkyPro can deliver (in addition to CHS) Angle of Attack, Dynamic Loft, and PTI (as a result of CHS). Swing path and face angle are not possible at the moment because there is no way to align SkyTrak and SkyPro to target line.

    • #6
      Very nice upgrade.

      1. On the club data screen, it shows side spin in RPM when I have spin axis selected in the sessions settings.
      2. Is it possible to have the club data (or other screens) on a second monitor? I know that many people don't have a second monitor but this would be a good way to see both the range and the club data for every shot.
      3. Is there a way to customize the lofts of each club? I play very weak lofts compared to most new clubs. I'm not sure how the club selection affects the optimal ranges.
      -PW=49
      -9 iron = 44
      -8 iron = 39
      -7 iron = 35
      -6 iron = 31
      -5 iron = 27
      -4 iron = 23

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      • SkyTrak_Seth
        SkyTrak_Seth commented
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        1 - Noted!
        2 - We are looking at this, but currently no.
        3 - We will be adding club customization in a future release.

    • #7
      Just tried it out. Works fine. Clearly there still needs to be some updating for lefties??? Please tell me I don't have to figure everything out backwards Nice updates. I also would like the option of having the club data and flight path both on one screen if possible. Again thanks for the work on the update!

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      • SkyTrak_Seth
        SkyTrak_Seth commented
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        Just look at it in a mirror? We will have lefty support for release.

        For now you will need to use the second top graphic toggle to view side and top profile for ball flight if you want club data. I will look at options for full 3D display of ball flight in the future.

    • #8
      I am getting a crash error anytime I go to the range. I can log in fine, but once i select the range it comes up and then I get the error. I am on a PC and have no issues with the 'regular' version. SkyTrak_Seth do you want me to send the log file and if so what is the best way to get it to you, PM, email, Carrier pigeon?

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      • SkyTrak_Seth
        SkyTrak_Seth commented
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        That's strange. Carrier pigeon or PM will work fine for log files.

    • #9
      Sounds like best option would be to have user selectable data/parameters for the driving range screen.

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      • SkyTrak_Seth
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        We will get there...

    • #10
      Off topic Seth, but I'm wondering if and when e6 Connect will be available and integrated with SkyTrak. I'll be happy with your wild guess!

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      • SkyTrak_Seth
        SkyTrak_Seth commented
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        LOL - yes, wildly off-topic "Wild guess" would be April-May.

    • #11
      Hi Seth, I'm not planning to use Sky Pro or R-motion in the near future but I'd be happy to beta test the other stuff.

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    • #12
      Good stuff! I have a few questions...

      * What is the shot optimizer and where do I find it?
      * It seems like I can't change the conditions, it is stuck on super soft?
      * Do I have to pair Skytrak and Skypro together? When I tried using them together tonight, Skypro is giving different data on my iphone than what is reported on my Skytrak PC software. The data on the PC is the same for Skytrak, Skypro or Club insights data.
      * Do you have to toggle in and out of club data for every single shot? It seems like I have to close out of club data, take the shot and then back to club data. Can't I just leave club data screen up and keep hitting balls?

      Thank you

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      • #13
        SkyTrak_Seth do you have any general time frame on when the item below is going to be available? I've got this but, if it's going to be quite a while before it's integrated, I may have to look at getting a skypro.

        d. R-Motion – Still in development

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        • SkyTrak_Seth
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          My hope is sometime next month.

      • #14
        Will anything in this release help with the shot delay or is that something that will always be their?

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        • SkyTrak_Seth
          SkyTrak_Seth commented
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          Not in this release nor do I see any improvements on our side, but every time Apple releases a new product with new processor, we seem to drop around a second.

      • #15
        SkyTrak_Seth can you not leverage Test Flight for Apple?

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        • SkyTrak_Seth
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          Yes, but you still need UDID's.
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