To be real or not to be real?

[MatalaWedge]

Just trying to say that we will probably have more situations on our hands concerning "not accurate" distances than with guys who claim they can smash it 350y @ 140mph all day any day.

Anyone claiming over 110mph is almost certain to be asked to provide some sort of other proof of swing speed... same goes for anyone claiming to hit it close to 300yds.

Also... as english is a second (or in some cases third) language for me: I did not meen "you" per se. What I ment to say was "If one thinks one hits it 250 and actually one only hits it 226 then one should basically be playing at 89% instead of the 98% one thinks reflects reality."

I don't want to imply that someone is doing this, but it also opens the door for a short player to become an average hitter without it going noticed. Who is going to question someone with a 240yd average (but only averages 218 on the course in real life)?

This person is not even cheating at this point. I'm sure he thinks he's actually got the numbers right....

[MatalaWedge]

Do we set our clubs to our carry distance or total distance since the game does not provide that much roll?

I think that is pretty much negligable. Roll on opti is calculated in feet not yards imho.... so total irl... or carry on opti... same difference

[JohnMeyer]

I've been working against the distance the Optishot gives as total distance, as like you say the Optishot doesn't show a lot of rollout, so Im guessing factors it in to the distance calculations

Its not an easy thing to do but I would encourage everyone to set to 89% and do 30 swings on driving range under calm conditions, medium Fairway speed and once have completed 30 swings have a look at the stats (menu in bottom right hand corner), and notice the average swing speed, and average distance. Will be interested to know:

A: How much these differ from your preconceived real life speeds and distances
B What is the ratio between the 2, ie average distance/average swing speed

A I hope most people will find is within 10 yards and for most people Speed within 2/3 mph (I say MOST, may well not be the case)

B I would hope would be 2.5 give or take a little bit

[braycobb]

Good question Buckeye and why I "disagree" with Hoganwood's comments above. Optishot gives little if any roll. Since I know my actual averages, On the range, I set mine to replicate total distance.

[braycobb]

Good question Buckeye and why I "disagree" with Hoganwood's comments above. Optishot gives little if any roll. Since I know my actual averages, On the range, I set mine to replicate total distance.

[MatalaWedge]

I've been working against the distance the Optishot gives as total distance, as like you say the Optishot doesn't show a lot of rollout, so Im guessing factors it in to the distance calculations

Its not an easy thing to do but I would encourage everyone to set to 89% and do 30 swings on driving range under calm conditions, medium Fairway speed and once have completed 30 swings have a look at the stats (menu in bottom right hand corner), and notice the average swing speed, and average distance. Will be interested to know:

A: How much these differ from your preconceived real life speeds and distances
B What is the ratio between the 2, ie average distance/average swing speed

A I hope most people will find is within 10 yards and for most people Speed within 2/3 mph (I say MOST, may well not be the case)

B I would hope would be 2.5 give or take a little bit

I'll be doing this live at 8pm GMT tonight. If you want to chat at the same time then we can fix up Skype or something. Not a big fan of hangouts, but I'll bite my teeth if it's the only option.

[JohnMeyer]

Just trying to say that we will probably have more situations on our hands concerning "not accurate" distances than with guys who claim they can smash it 350y @ 140mph all day any day.

Anyone claiming over 110mph is almost certain to be asked to provide some sort of other proof of swing speed... same goes for anyone claiming to hit it close to 300yds.

Also... as english is a second (or in some cases third) language for me: I did not meen "you" per se. What I ment to say was "If one thinks one hits it 250 and actually one only hits it 226 then one should basically be playing at 89% instead of the 98% one thinks reflects reality."

I don't want to imply that someone is doing this, but it also opens the door for a short player to become an average hitter without it going noticed. Who is going to question someone with a 240yd average (but only averages 218 on the course in real life)?

I think I get what you mean, so basically you think its good to force it to be 89% so someone who hits 226 in real life cant set it to 98% so they hit 250, as if they did this no one would notice as there distance would be too low for people to think they were "boosting" their drive

I think this raises an interesting point and again puts another good reason to fix the max distance %, say at 90% or 89% etc

[Maxxx]

Hey guys, this is getting WAY too technical for me 😨 and probably way too technical for our 400$ machines ! Our Optishots can only do so much and will never give us Trackman quality data. It's been said before, to make things somewhat realistic, just find out your real swing speed (if you have accsess to do so) and bring your distance % down until your total distance seems close to what it is on the course. It will never be real golf and is an entry level simulator so let's just have fun with it boys 😁
Good luck in the final round 👍

[Buckeye]

Good question Buckeye and why I "disagree" with Hoganwood's comments above. Optishot gives little if any roll. Since I know my actual averages, On the range, I set mine to replicate total distance.

Ok, so for example if I carry 265 and expect a total of 280 with roll out in the real world I should adjust my settings to 280? I guess what I have been doing is splitting the difference at 270.

[MatalaWedge]

Pretty much yeah. I think anyone who has wrong numbers is just as much in the wrong... intentional or not. The problem is not just the guys who are hitting it 320 when they should be hitting it 290... It's anyone hitting it 10% further than they really do.

Kinda looking after my own intrests here, but I think this point is just as valid as the point Buckeye was making about 140mph players.

[braycobb]

Buckeye....Yes

[Buckeye]

Buckeye....Yes

Thank you.

[Buckeye]

Pretty much yeah. I think anyone who has wrong numbers is just as much in the wrong... intentional or not. The problem is not just the guys who are hitting it 320 when they should be hitting it 290... It's anyone hitting it 10% further than they really do.

Kinda looking after my own intrests here, but I think this point is just as valid as the point Buckeye was making about 140mph players.

You are absolutely correct.

[braycobb]

Maxxx...All of my "technical talk" is trying to say the exact same thing. Just play your game.

[Willymakit]

Here's what I found out after doing some testing. I know what all my stats are when using the hd simulator which I feel is the best on the market. With my driver my swing speed is between 116 to 124 mph with a smash factor of 1.46 with a spin of 2400rpm and averaging around 285 So taking that information and hitting balls on optishot I find the Swing speed is much lower roughly around the 110-115 mph but the distance of the ball is about the same distance of 285 to 295 which was the same has hd simulator So after hitting 20 balls on both simulators my average was at 285 on hd simulator and 289 on optishot. So I feel i should not have to change anything.

And I hit wrong button but wanted to add something to this also. Had a friend come with me also to hit some balls on the simulator. Here is his stats. With driver his swing speeds were 90-103 with a smash factor of 1.34 and 3200 rpm on spin with a distance of 240 So came back to the house and his were totally opposite. After 20 swings his data was 95 to 112with avg speed of 105 and his distance of 260. So I find if you don't hit it pure you can get more distance which he topped a couple and still went further. So then I went back to the optishot and hit balls I tried to top them and was getting swing speeds of 117 to 134 with distances of 320 So my conclusion is. If you don't hit the ball solid you will get inconsistent results.