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  • TGC Tour Handicap Calculation

    How is your TGC Tour Handicap Index Calculated

    Your TGC Tour Handicap is calculated based on the official USGA Handicap Formula.

    Step 1: Calculate the Differentials
    Using your adjusted gross scores, the course ratings and slope ratings, Step 1 is calculating the handicap differential for each round entered using this formula:

    (Score - Course Rating) x 113 / Slope Rating

    The sum of that calculation is called your "handicap differential." This differential is calculated for each round entered (minimum of five, maximum of 20).

    Note: The number 113 is a constant and represents the slope rating of a golf course of average difficulty.

    Step 2: Determine How Many Differentials To Use
    Not every differential that results from Step 1 will be used in the next step. If only five rounds are entered, only the lowest of your five differentials will be used in the following step. If 20 rounds are entered, only the 10 lowest differentials are used. Use this chart to determine how many differentials to use in your handicap calculation.

    Number of Differentials Used

    The number of rounds you are reporting for handicap purposes determines the number of differentials used in the USGA handicap calculation, as follows:
    Rounds Entered Differentials Used
    5-6 rounds Use 1 lowest differential
    7-8 rounds Use 2 lowest differential
    9-10 rounds Use 3 lowest differential
    11-12 rounds Use 4 lowest differential
    13-14 rounds Use 5 lowest differential
    15-16 rounds Use 6 lowest differential
    17 rounds Use 7 lowest differential
    18 rounds Use 8 lowest differential
    19 rounds Use 9 lowest differential
    20 rounds Use 10 lowest differential

    Step 3: Average Your Differentials
    Get an average of the differentials used by adding them together and dividing by the number used (i.e., if five differentials are used, add them up and divide by five).

    Step 4: Calculating Your Handicap Index
    And the final step is to take the number that results from Step 3 and multiply the result by 0.96 (96-percent). The result is TGC Tour Handicap Index.

    Handicap Committee
    The handicap committee currently consists of mthunt, keither5150 and bubba22. They are also the tournament committee. The committee picks and rates the courses. Slope rating 113 will be used when a course has not been rated. The committee will monitor scores, handicaps and game play.

  • #31
    Do people prefer having an online fantasy that is much lower then their IRL handicap or would they prefer having an online handicap that more roughly approximates their irl handicap?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Cklguy2013 View Post
      Do people prefer having an online fantasy that is much lower then their IRL handicap or would they prefer having an online handicap that more roughly approximates their irl handicap?
      I'm sure many would say they would want it roughly the same. That's why we all got into this simulator business, for the accuracy it gives us while still playing it at home. For me personally at least I know I want it to represent my actual game as much a possible

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      • Cklguy2013
        Cklguy2013 commented
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        Me too... I would be nice to know if you were a scratch on here, you'd be scratch in real life... or a 10 or whatever one aspires to.

    • #33
      I'm a +2.4 IRL and +1.5 on the sim tour. The gimmies and perfect lie do help a lot but I also find that I don't make near as many intermediate length putts in sim golf as real life along with my wedge game being 10 times better in real life than in TGC. I don't know if it's not having that true depth perception or what, but I can't get consistent results 100 yards and in on TGC. So everything kind of evens out. In the Optishot league, I was pissed if I didn't shoot 7 or 8 under. So I'm obviously thrilled with how much closer Skytrak and TGC matches my real game.

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      • #34
        Ok so my handicap was at 30.6 after I played my five rounds so I set it to 9 because if I look at my stats my average was 9 over par. Does this work? also will it keep adjusting after each round?
        My Courses:

        DGWCBETA1 (L)
        Shack's Window Co. Beta1 (L)
        Quarry Golf Club V2 (L)
        Metamora Fields V1 (L)
        Metamora Fields Par 3 (L)
        University Ridge V1 (L)
        Stonewall_North_gCool/B33 (L)
        Stonewall_Old_gCool/B33 (L)
        Green Hill G.C. V2(L)
        The Bear Forest CC V2 (L)
        Perkins & Friends V1 (L)
        Bellewood CC V1(L)
        Stonewall North Par 3 (L)
        Stonewall Old Par 3 (L)
        The Ranch V1 (L)
        Shenandoah BlueRed V1 (L)

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        • mthunt
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          It'll keep,adjusting.

      • #35
        Hey guys, I think the tournaments and handicapping are great, a big improvement from when I was last on here. I have a few thoughts though regarding further refining the handicapping system to get our caps more in line with our IRL handicaps. If the powers that be on here are interested in my input and assistance please let me know. Cheers, and keep up the great work!

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        • #36
          Does your handicap ever go up??

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          • Cklguy2013
            Cklguy2013 commented
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            By up do you mean your handicap on here vs real life?

          • Fieldygolf
            Fieldygolf commented
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            I mean on here as I'm not use to he usga system. I'm used to the congu handicap system where if you don't shoot your handicap nett score you go up 0.1

        • #37
          Originally posted by Cklguy2013 View Post
          Hey guys, I think the tournaments and handicapping are great, a big improvement from when I was last on here. I have a few thoughts though regarding further refining the handicapping system to get our caps more in line with our IRL handicaps. If the powers that be on here are interested in my input and assistance please let me know. Cheers, and keep up the great work!
          What do you have in mind? Keep in mind Sim handicaps should be lower.
          My Courses:
          World Par 3's by mthunt
          Toronto GC (L) mthunt
          Burlington G&CC by mthunt
          Weston G&CC by mthunt
          London Hunt Club L mthunt
          Park CC Lidar mthunt
          Sunningdale GC Robinson L
          Sunningdale GC Thompson L
          Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
          Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
          The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
          The National GC L mthunt
          Mississaugua GC L mthunt
          Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
          Markland Woods CC mthunt
          Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
          Magna GC L mthunt
          Barrie CC L mthunt
          mthunt Range

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          • Fieldygolf
            Fieldygolf commented
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            I understand that, I'm just playing bad at the moment and my handicap doesn't seem to go up lol. Here in there uk if you don't shoot level your handicap you go up after each round depending on what category you are in.

        • #38
          Originally posted by Fieldygolf View Post
          Does your handicap ever go up??
          Your handicap will go up or down based on the formula on page one.
          My Courses:
          World Par 3's by mthunt
          Toronto GC (L) mthunt
          Burlington G&CC by mthunt
          Weston G&CC by mthunt
          London Hunt Club L mthunt
          Park CC Lidar mthunt
          Sunningdale GC Robinson L
          Sunningdale GC Thompson L
          Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
          Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
          The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
          The National GC L mthunt
          Mississaugua GC L mthunt
          Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
          Markland Woods CC mthunt
          Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
          Magna GC L mthunt
          Barrie CC L mthunt
          mthunt Range

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          • #39
            Sim handicaps are lower because the course ratings are too high, if course ratings were lowered then sim handicaps could come close to IRL handicaps, more to it then that obviously, but that's a an overview.

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            • #40
              For example, something like this:
              Course Yards Par Rating Slope
              The Oaks at Weschester blue tees 6543 72 69.6 124
              Whistling Straits blue tees 6627 72 68.4 113
              Merion East Ardmore Pa (Protee) 6182 72 66.8 120
              Monarch Montreal Protee 6573 70 66.0 113
              Winter Flathead Country Club 6380 72 66.4 120
              Pine Valley White tees 6035 70 69.0 147
              Tobo GolfKlub Protee #2 6173 72 65.4 135
              Double Black Course at Christina Pines 6705 72 66.2 138
              Tomahawk Golf Club 6886 71 67.8 147
              NGLA 6514 72 [I 122
              Oceanic Athletic Club 6777 72 147
              Last edited by Cklguy2013; 10-25-2016, 12:35 AM.

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              • #41
                I've thought of back-computing simulator course ratings and slopes based on scores posted in the tournament and the history of players who played relative to performance on other courses. Par for course rating and 113 for slope would be the starting point and adjust up or down based on some type of low and high handicap normalized results.

                The USGA rates courses based on effective yardage, landing zone and hazards at common distances, remaining hazards, length, etc. so copying it the real way isn't really possible.

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                • #42
                  Yes but you could start with basic yardage then adjust up or down based on real scoring. Pine Valley about is a perfect example above, only 6,035 yards, but go back and look at the scores.

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                  • #43
                    Originally posted by Cklguy2013 View Post
                    Sim handicaps are lower because the course ratings are too high, if course ratings were lowered then sim handicaps could come close to IRL handicaps, more to it then that obviously, but that's a an overview.
                    We are actually looking at this and trying to determine more accurate course ratings. We actually went from a really bad system to this and decided to have 3 set ratings. It's a huge improvement.

                    Sim handicaps should always be lower. Not as low as yours but that will fix itself. There's no wind, no rough, no sand and perfect lies plus the game reads the greens and gives you 6 foot putts. TGC, once your used to it, should have you 2-4 shots better than IRL IMO.

                    Rest assurd, we are looking at the course ratings for this tour. We can't do anything about the game thus we use a handicap system independent of the game. TGC and our tour has come a long way. It only gets better and that's great.
                    My Courses:
                    World Par 3's by mthunt
                    Toronto GC (L) mthunt
                    Burlington G&CC by mthunt
                    Weston G&CC by mthunt
                    London Hunt Club L mthunt
                    Park CC Lidar mthunt
                    Sunningdale GC Robinson L
                    Sunningdale GC Thompson L
                    Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
                    Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
                    The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
                    The National GC L mthunt
                    Mississaugua GC L mthunt
                    Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
                    Markland Woods CC mthunt
                    Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
                    Magna GC L mthunt
                    Barrie CC L mthunt
                    mthunt Range

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                    • #44
                      Oh I absolutely agree that it has come a long way, and Rome wasn't built in a day, so these things will come in time. Keep up the good work and if you need some assistance I'd be more than happy to help out.

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                      • #45
                        Originally posted by mthunt View Post
                        Sim handicaps should always be lower. Not as low as yours but that will fix itself. There's no wind, no rough, no sand and perfect lies plus the game reads the greens and gives you 6 foot putts. TGC, once your used to it, should have you 2-4 shots better than IRL IMO.
                        I'm not disagreeing since you have good points, but real life scoring is strongly affected by the short game and putting, both I find significantly harder on a SIM. Especially when switching regularly between SIM and real golf. I don't know the answer but to me it isn't a given that SIM handicaps *should* be 2-4 shots better than IRL. If they were the same it wouldn't be obviously wrong IMO.

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