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  • mthunt
    Ultimate Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 4746

    #46
    Originally posted by FaultyClubs View Post

    I'm not disagreeing since you have good points, but real life scoring is strongly affected by the short game and putting, both I find significantly harder on a SIM. Especially when switching regularly between SIM and real golf. I don't know the answer but to me it isn't a given that SIM handicaps *should* be 2-4 shots better than IRL. If they were the same it wouldn't be obviously wrong IMO.
    I'm just curious but what platform do you use? I think it's ProTee sensors isn't it?
    My Courses:
    World Par 3's by mthunt
    Toronto GC (L) mthunt
    Burlington G&CC by mthunt
    Weston G&CC by mthunt
    London Hunt Club L mthunt
    Park CC Lidar mthunt
    Sunningdale GC Robinson L
    Sunningdale GC Thompson L
    Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
    Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
    The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
    The National GC L mthunt
    Mississaugua GC L mthunt
    Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
    Markland Woods CC mthunt
    Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
    Magna GC L mthunt
    Barrie CC L mthunt
    mthunt Range

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    • Thinman
      Offline
      • Jul 2016
      • 266

      #47
      i haven't played IRL in 4 years. When I played regularly, I was a 12, down to 10.5 at one point, but it was all on a very flat muni and I believe I played to more like a 15.

      Along these lines, I would love to have a couple of feature in future releases.

      - Option to turn off the built-in penalty system. I have FW, first cut & rough surfaces that I can hit from in my simulator, but that would be double-jeopardy with the built-in penalties already in place. This is for non-tour play of course.

      - Option to declare an HC round, with the round being tracked on the player profile page. The second part of this one could be moot if the next release supports multiple tee boxes and the HC system & course ratings get somehow fixed to something more realistic. If so, the TGC HC's might become useful. But, I would still like to declare HC rounds vs. practice rounds. I get the feeling it would work better if the rounds where tracked here under the tour HC system though.

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      • Cklguy2013
        Super Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 715

        #48
        Some interesting numbers to consider when we get to course ratings.

        Par, Yards, top 10%, Median, Mean, bottom 10%


        NGLA 72, 6,514, 70.6, 81.0, 82.5, 102.5
        Oceanic Athletic Club 72, 6,777, 70.8, 83.0, 84.7, 105.2
        Last edited by Cklguy2013; 10-25-2016, 07:02 PM.

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        • Tommyseb
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 149

          #49
          Hi, in the 2 round tournaments if someone had a handicap of 2.4, shouldn't the playing handicap be calculated for each single round instead of over the two rounds? I.e you should have a playing HC of 2 for each round totalling 4 shots for the 2 rounds, looking at the tournament results it looks like you get 2.4 x 2 = 4.8 = playing handicap of 5 over the 2 rounds?

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          • andygg1986
            andygg1986 commented
            Editing a comment
            You are correct in how your handicap is multiplied by 2 and then applied to the combined score for both rounds. Personally I like that, although I'm not sure if there is a USGA rule for applying handicaps to tournament rounds. If you were to do it the other way, you would see 2 shot swings from fractional handicap improvements. For example, going from 2.6 to 2.4 would cost you 2 shots in the tournament. The way it is now, a fractional improvement in your handicap can only affect your tournament score by 1 shot. It is already pretty tight at the top of most leaderboards so changing would definitely move people up or down.
        • Smudge7204
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2018
          • 126

          #50
          I just finished q school and wondering when/how I find out what my tour HC is and who posts it etc. I can see my TGC handicap is 24 (which makes no sense to me since most of my rounds are in the 70's). I am guessing the handicap committee determines our Tour HC? Looking forward to joining the tour!

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          • ProTee United
            Manufacturer
            • Aug 2014
            • 2997

            #51
            Tour handicaps will update every Tuesday around 11am CET+1. See your tour profile on http://golfsimulatortours.com

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            • WISCOGOLFNUT
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2018
              • 110

              #52
              ProTee United can you please check why I do not have a handicap l.. shot recording is on.. userid is copy and pasted in and I played 5 rounds of q school.. tk u

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              • mthunt
                Ultimate Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 4746

                #53
                Originally posted by WISCOGOLFNUT View Post
                ProTee United can you please check why I do not have a handicap l.. shot recording is on.. userid is copy and pasted in and I played 5 rounds of q school.. tk u
                Handicaps update on Tuesdays I believe.
                My Courses:
                World Par 3's by mthunt
                Toronto GC (L) mthunt
                Burlington G&CC by mthunt
                Weston G&CC by mthunt
                London Hunt Club L mthunt
                Park CC Lidar mthunt
                Sunningdale GC Robinson L
                Sunningdale GC Thompson L
                Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
                Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
                The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
                The National GC L mthunt
                Mississaugua GC L mthunt
                Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
                Markland Woods CC mthunt
                Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
                Magna GC L mthunt
                Barrie CC L mthunt
                mthunt Range

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                • WISCOGOLFNUT
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2018
                  • 110

                  #54
                  mthunt Ahhh, gotcha..want sure how the first one worked if it was instant or only weekly.. tk u!

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                  • PKR
                    Advanced Member
                    • Oct 2019
                    • 310

                    #55
                    My lowest score after 6 rounds was an 83. My tour hcp is 6.7. That's one heck of a slope.
                    Lidar Courses:
                    Belmont CC Lidar
                    Virginia National Lidar
                    Creighton Farms Lidar
                    Westpark Va Lidar

                    Fictional Simulator Courses:
                    Ile aux cinq phares
                    Conifer Woods v2
                    Rodgers Woods v2
                    Greenwood Golf Course Sim
                    Desert Valley Golf Sim
                    Nine Lakes

                    plus others.

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                    • PKR
                      Advanced Member
                      • Oct 2019
                      • 310

                      #56
                      Edit: nevermind, just noticed a 79 in there.
                      Lidar Courses:
                      Belmont CC Lidar
                      Virginia National Lidar
                      Creighton Farms Lidar
                      Westpark Va Lidar

                      Fictional Simulator Courses:
                      Ile aux cinq phares
                      Conifer Woods v2
                      Rodgers Woods v2
                      Greenwood Golf Course Sim
                      Desert Valley Golf Sim
                      Nine Lakes

                      plus others.

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                      • PKR
                        Advanced Member
                        • Oct 2019
                        • 310

                        #57
                        I'm assuming only rounds from completed tournaments in q school and pro tee society are taken into consideration for handicap purposes (ie not finishing the tournament or playing Noonan or one of the others doesn't count)
                        Lidar Courses:
                        Belmont CC Lidar
                        Virginia National Lidar
                        Creighton Farms Lidar
                        Westpark Va Lidar

                        Fictional Simulator Courses:
                        Ile aux cinq phares
                        Conifer Woods v2
                        Rodgers Woods v2
                        Greenwood Golf Course Sim
                        Desert Valley Golf Sim
                        Nine Lakes

                        plus others.

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