The Golf Club 2019 vs. E6 Connect

[3on3putt]

Got it. I thought uphill / downhill was not factored in either. My mistake.

[Golfser]

-- E6 has no lie penalties or uphill / downhill effects when using Skytrak or Mevo+, so every shot just plays the yardage whether you're in the middle of the fairway or the deep rough or a bunker. TGC has lie penalties and elevation effects no matter which launch monitor you use so there's actually a penalty for missing fairways and greens along with the need to account for uphill or downhill shots. More true to real golf in this respect.

Just wanna point out that this isn't true. In E6 you do lose or gain carry distance when going uphill / downhill. But there are indeed no lie penalties.

[Wizard of Coz]

TGC2019 is excellent. 99% of the guys are great on discord. Many live matches, skins game leagues etc.... 🗑 talk galore

[3on3putt]

Hi All - Sorry for digging up an older thread if there is another more current one out there. It looks like folks expected a lot of improvements over the year - does anyone have opinions on TGC vs E6 today? I'm going to go with one or the other in the next few days and it's a big purchase so I want to cover all of my bases. Thanks!

Having played both, here is my assessment. (Granted I only played the demo of E6 so take it with a grain of salt).


Advantages of TGC19:

-- More courses than you could ever play, with more added basically every week. The ability to play your local courses is cool.

-- Ability to design your own courses

-- Includes a particular course in the south that hosts a popular tournament every April. Given how protective this course is of their branding, I doubt it will ever be available in E6 unless E6 implemented the ability to design your own courses.

-- Better graphics. That's not to say E6 graphics are bad. They just aren't quite as good as TGC (in my opinion). TGC graphics have more little details like divots, pitch marks and ball trails in sand. Others may have their own opinions of course. Again, I only played the E6 demo but that was my takeaway.

-- Much more robust tournament scene. The E6 tournament scene will likely grow over time as the number of users increases, but it would have a long way to go to catch up to the TGC community. Fields of 150+ every week for the tour that follows the PGA Tour schedule. Tons of societies. You can find many tournaments to play in at literally any time of day any day of the week. TGC tournaments have crowds and grandstands, which is pretty cool. No crowds in the E6 tournaments.

-- E6 has no lie penalties or uphill / downhill effects when using Skytrak or Mevo+, so every shot just plays the yardage whether you're in the middle of the fairway or the deep rough or a bunker. TGC has lie penalties and elevation effects no matter which launch monitor you use so there's actually a penalty for missing fairways and greens along with the need to account for uphill or downhill shots. More true to real golf in this respect.

-- More sound effects (ball hitting flagstick, crowd applause, etc.)

-- Handicaps that update every week and are applied to tournament play

-- Way cheaper in price. E6 makes you pay annually for peer to peer play or tournament play, which you'll be paying forever. TGC is just a one-time purchase for everything. The long-term costs for E6 will add up big time.


Advantages of E6:

-- Scramble mode

-- More kid-friendly games

-- More frequent updates

-- Some argue slightly better ball physics but the spin on the green is weird on E6. TGC has a "big first bounce" thing on low shots so they both have their quirks with ball physics.

-- Might be others that I'm not thinking of?

[76hudson]

Hi All - Sorry for digging up an older thread if there is another more current one out there. It looks like folks expected a lot of improvements over the year - does anyone have opinions on TGC vs E6 today? I'm going to go with one or the other in the next few days and it's a big purchase so I want to cover all of my bases. Thanks!

[nbar]

E6 Connect $2500 one time payment but only 27 golf courses vs TGC 2019 $1000 one time payment 170,000 courses and a course designer.

[bob-p]

The E6 software evolved from software originally developed for PC (Links, Links 386, Microsoft Golf, ...) - software that we've had for many years. So when we purchased our SkyTrak, it was an easy decision to get E6. But while we had one of our golf courses with the earlier Links software, E6 wanted a very high price to purchase a course add-on that would include one of the courses we play often.

When TGC 2019 came out and our E6 subscription came up for renewal, we looked at E6 Connect, which was bundling our course in with the standard subscription. However, the number of courses is still relatively limited compared to TGC 2019.

So we jumped to TGC 2019 - and then spent time to use LIDAR data to our club's 4 courses to TGC 2019. And playing those courses in TGC 2019 is close to the experience of playing the real courses. Though it would help if TGC 2019 provided better support in a few areas (hazard markers, drop zones, ...).

While the one-time purchase of TGC 2019 is relatively expensive, once you've done that, you don't need to pay each year to continue using it.

And there are many great courses in the huge TGC course library that's used by SkyTrak users plus people playing the game on PCs (from Steam) and video game systems.

[kyledelaughter]

I think TGR is head and shoulders above E6. I have tried the E6 demo over 20 different times and imo it doesn't even compare with TGC. I think the graphics on TGR are just absolutely beautiful and the gameplay is spot on.

[sirish19]

Quick update. I have had TGC 2019 for about a month with my SkyTrak and, wow, am I blown away. The graphics area phenomenal and there are so many courses, you can never get tired of them. I have also been playing around with the LiDAR tool to replicate a few of my home courses back in the US and they are extremely realistic. It is also really fun to spend hours designing the course that you can play indefinitely.

I would highly recommend TGC 2019 to pair with the SkyTrak or any other launch monitor.

[GungHoGolf]

SkyTrak users can also choose to pay $2,500 one time for 27 courses, but you won't get new courses or online play without the sub. You will get lifetime updates to the app and game engine.

[sturonek]

Am I reading this wrong? "With E6 CONNECT, users can subscribe for access to the entire E6 Library of content. Users can subscribe for a Basic Subscription that provides new content each month or the Expanded Subscription that will provide access to the entire library of content in the E6 CONNECT library.* Subscriptions are not mandatory. (4) New 4K Courses Added Each Year." Sounds like to me any other LM BESIDES Skytrak can just pay the $2500 1 time for 27 courses. This doesn't get you any online stuff, but would be good for local play.

[GungHoGolf]

I wouldn't waste your money on getting the original TGC - you'll never want to play it once you've played '19.

[sirish19]

Based upon what I have seen so far (YouTube videos), the volume of courses, the one-time purchase cost vs. annual fees, and the ability to design your own courses, I decided to go with TGC + TGC 2019 combo pack offered by SkyTrak. I haven't had a chance to try this out on the ST but based upon what I have seen with pre-shot flyovers and other things, the graphics looks very good, even running on Boot Camp.

will try this out shortly and report back here.

[Brettster]

Why not ask on hb studios forums to see if they are planning on fixing any of these problems in TGC2019 that we’re not there in TGC?

[trhuke]

Jerome "...$20 console with $1000 feature wedged in"

Right on the money!