Unofficial opinion on 5% alteration

[Shipwreck34]

I've actually lost the thread of this. For someone that doesn't care either way you sure do have a long and complicated opinion on the matter!

I don't think one of my statements is for boost and the other against, I think both are clearly against boost.

I have no time for your attitude of "go your own way". That's never the solution. Time will tell but i'm confident things will land the correct way up!

Like I said, reading is tough, huh? Comprehension, doubly so.

People stuck in their ways can rarely handle other people willing to do their own thing. That's precisely when it makes the most sense. Que sera, sera.

[I kept it really brief just for you ]

[dg_1983]

Weren't you the dude that thought skytrak measured clubhead speed?

[Shipwreck34]

Weren't you the dude that thought skytrak measured clubhead speed?

Yes, yes I was. ...or at least one of them. That was before I understood it didn't. I suppose you've never been mistaken about ANYTHING in your life. EVER. Right?

If you're trying to goad me, you're going to have to try harder, sport.

[dg_1983]

Some folks crack me up, you crack me up. I was mistaken once, I thought at some point in this thread you were reasonable but then realized you weren't.

I jumped in on page 6 and you quite quickly started to attack my posts, it's almost like you mixed me up with some of the others you were having a back and forth with.

Are you even a tour player? Does this conversation even impact you?

[Shipwreck34]

Some folks crack me up, you crack me up. I was mistaken once, I thought at some point in this thread you were reasonable but then realized you weren't.

I jumped in on page 6 and you quite quickly started to attack my posts, it's almost like you mixed me up with some of the others you were having a back and forth with.

Are you even a tour player? Does this conversation even impact you?

I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood that I need to be a "tour player" in order to express, and defend, my opinion. I apologize that I did not recognize your entitlement that only your opinion matters. Furthermore, I regret that I did not keep my responses brief, and easily digestible.

I will endeavor in the future to continue to not care about the "poo-pooing" of people like yourself. The fact that you have an opinion that doesn't align with mine doesn't make me an idiot. You not realizing that, well, it doesn't help your case. It is regrettable that no one in your life ever taught you that. You're not the first person I've ever run up against that has taken me defending my opinion, and not just laying down and taking theirs blindly, as "attacking" them. Your characterization is superfluous.

TL;DR: I'm allowed to defend my opinion, no matter how that upsets your delicate sensibilities.

P.S. I'm glad you can get a chuckle out of it. That's a much better response.

[EskimoQuinn]

Hey, if you aren't playing on tour, do whatever you want. This discussion is 100% related to the Protee rules that allow 5% boost in official tour events. If you aren't playing the tour events, this doesn't impact you at all.

[mthunt]

Wait, 75% of the words in this thread about boost are by someone that doesn't even play on the ProTee tour? That's special.

[EskimoQuinn]

Just when you think you've seen everything.......

[dg_1983]

My godness, half this stuff is made up!

You need some love in your life, I hope you find peace x

FWIW this is a question on tour rules, for tour members, not a platform for your opinion. Non tour members don't get a vote

You total roaster

[Tonysmjc]

I don’t play on tour , and I think I responded here earlier. I also don’t believe wizards op specified only tour players need reply . There are tons of ppl that think about joining the tour ( I’m not one of them ) based on the rules and possibly this rule in particular. I see no reason that non tour players and those not yet tour players shouldn’t as requested give “ opinions”.What the powers that be do with those opinions is up to them . It’s always better to play nice in the sand box , just my .02

[Shipwreck34]

Tony gets it.

[Wizard of Coz]

I actually just wanted opinions of people on tour as it was directed to tour competition. Simple yes no to get a feel for it but it turned into an epic fail. Never even tried to tally it up. Oh well it was unofficial anyway.

I thought it might help get a tour rules change or at least a proper private vote on it.
I was wrong.

[mthunt]

Go buy some toilet paper. Kalamazoo Costco just stocked the shelves

[Wizard of Coz]

I have plenty. Would feel weird buying water or tp. Weird shit going on.

[Tonysmjc]

Had you said that I certainly would have honored your request

[Ahecht415]

I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood that I need to be a "tour player" in order to express, and defend, my opinion. I apologize that I did not recognize your entitlement that only your opinion matters. Furthermore, I regret that I did not keep my responses brief, and easily digestible.

I will endeavor in the future to continue to not care about the "poo-pooing" of people like yourself. The fact that you have an opinion that doesn't align with mine doesn't make me an idiot. You not realizing that, well, it doesn't help your case. It is regrettable that no one in your life ever taught you that. You're not the first person I've ever run up against that has taken me defending my opinion, and not just laying down and taking theirs blindly, as "attacking" them. Your characterization is superfluous.

TL;DR: I'm allowed to defend my opinion, no matter how that upsets your delicate sensibilities.

P.S. I'm glad you can get a chuckle out of it. That's a much better response.

You don’t have to be on tour to have an opinion on the topic. However, the real question and oddity is why you would care at all or even take the time to create a thread about it. The boost doesn’t impact your life or simulator experience at all.

[Shipwreck34]

You don’t have to be on tour to have an opinion on the topic. However, the real question and oddity is why you would care at all or even take the time to create a thread about it. The boost doesn’t impact your life or simulator experience at all.

Well, at the time I was thinking about joining, and so I was voicing my opinion on the matter. I also asked questions along the way, looking for insight one way or the other. I made my opinion clear, and was descriptive about it. That apparently was some kind of sin around here, and the responses I received out of it made my decision to abstain quite easy.

The rest, well... after I'd made my decision not to play with these fine fellows it was way more fun to keep poking as they were obviously so easily triggered. This is a public forum after all, and as long as my opinion was not offensive, or crossed well known lines of decency, I knew I could make them known. Defending my opinions, sometimes playing Devil's Advocate, other times oddly specific references just to watch a few of these thin skinned cretins fly up in the ceiling like a top in a light breeze. At a minimum, it passed a little bit of time in between meetings and emails at work, and I learned a few things about the game and how it works along the way. Winning.

So, thanks for the distraction, boys. Since you came after me so vigorously for simply having my own opinion, I took you for a little ride while defending it. But I'm bored now. Fully qualified "meh".

P.S. I didn't create the thread. Don't want certain opinions? Know your audience and keep the council small. Otherwise, fair game gentlemen.

[Wizard of Coz]

No biggie guys. Really just wanted yes or no and if it showed a landslide vote for rules change was hoping protee would hold official private vote.

[EskimoQuinn]

Pretty sure this was a landslide.....

[Wizard of Coz]

Definitely enough to warrant a confidential vote. Agreed

[Sting Ray]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not but having the 5% boost is important to me as I live in Nevada, elevation is 2k+ depending on where I play around the valley. So playing with 5% on for me makes sense as the courses don’t get adjusted for altitude in tgc.

[Jwheels9876]

right but if you went to pebble beach for a round would your 5% be valid there also at sea level?

[mthunt]

It's a flawed argument. When everyone goes to Denver the ball goes farther. When they go to pebble the ball doesn't. Where you live doesn't matter on the TGC Tour

[Wizard of Coz]

Wiz thinks it's a valid argument if he wants to match his outdoor game. That would be the hole point of sim for many of us, knowing your correct outdoor carries could be beneficial one would think. After all most of us want to improve our outdoor game???

Tournament play even field is needed though.

[shwag33]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not but having the 5% boost is important to me as I live in Nevada, elevation is 2k+ depending on where I play around the valley. So playing with 5% on for me makes sense as the courses don’t get adjusted for altitude in tgc.

You can still have the boost. This is for online tournaments only.

[Sting Ray]

Look I could really care less....honestly I’m never gonna win any of these tournaments anyways. I play for fun. You guys take this stuff way too serious, you act like you’re playing for real money for gods sake. Settle down....have fun, I’d rather know my accurate carry numbers for when I play where I live.. I could give a damn less if the ball goes shorter at pebble and farther in Denver. I don’t play there....and when I do I’ll make the adjustment....I need to know that my 8i is gonna carry somewhere between 100-180...😂😂

[Wizard of Coz]

Yeah it's definitely crazy here but it's all fun.

[mthunt]

That’s a big range for the 8i Sting Ray. Might try to get that range down to 30 yards. LOL