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    i just got back from Vegas and my club closed on Sunday. It's sim season and we are getting new players every day so I figured I'd repost this. Tour Rules

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    Purpose To offer an online league format that facilitates all that we enjoy about playing the Sport of Golf. To make Tournament settings on each round that compare


    06-26-2017, 03:49 PM
    Hi everyone. I think it's important to revisit the rules every now and then as we keep getting new players. Our tour is designed for everyone and every system. It's only for fun but like real golf, we have chosen to allow you to police yourselves. Also like real golf cheating will get you banned. If you are going to play, play by the rules. Everything else is managed by the game. Below are mostly settings.

    TGC Tour Rules

    Boost and other shot mods:
    +/- 5%. Most ProTee/ TGC supported systems have the ability to adjust your settings. This is from having sensor mats and tweaking them. For tour play, you are allowed to adjust any setting by 5%. This means you can add 5% max boost and decrease 5% spin. Believe me, 5% isn't going to change anyone's life. A 20 yard draw would draw 19 yards with 5% adjustment.

    Putting:
    The standard putting setting was 2. We set it this way because we believed the GC2 would perform fairly at that setting. We recently changed it to allow you to increase the setting so the ball will only go straight. It's your choice what you use. I use 2. Move the slider all the way over and aim with the pointer only if you choose.

    Gimmies:
    You have to set your system to a max of 1.8 yards. This is done by setting the Gimmie Setting to "Gimmie". If you want no gimmies, knock yourself out.

    Wind:
    We play without wind. You must as well.

    Shot Recording:
    Turn it on. You'll see SR in the standings. An X means it's off. We contact those who have it off but sometimes someone that isn't on the form enters a tournament. If it's off, you won't be included in any rankings.

    Rewinds:
    Obviously a big one. Some systems give errors and strange things happen. Here's some examples:

    Allowed:
    -A ball was in the FOV of your GC2 and you rolled another couple of balls near by and it read a 2 foot put.
    -Your protee said the ball you hit in the middle of your screen went 25 degrees right.
    -Your GSX said the ball went 20 yards and it was flushed into the screen.
    I think you get it.

    Not allowed:
    -Your putt lipped out but you think you hit it straight
    -Your bunker shot didn't clear the lip but you think it should have
    -You sliced it and it's behind a tree
    -You hit a 3 wood over water and it didn't make it but you once hit a 3 wood far enough to carry
    -You hit a 5 iron and it rolled over the green but you hit a 5 iron outside last week and it stopped
    -You hit it in the water and the game put you all the way back where you hit it from. Too bad.

    Have fun and play by the rules.


    mthunt




    My Courses:
    World Par 3's by mthunt
    Toronto GC (L) mthunt
    Burlington G&CC by mthunt
    Weston G&CC by mthunt
    London Hunt Club L mthunt
    Park CC Lidar mthunt
    Sunningdale GC Robinson L
    Sunningdale GC Thompson L
    Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
    Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
    The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
    The National GC L mthunt
    Mississaugua GC L mthunt
    Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
    Markland Woods CC mthunt
    Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
    Magna GC L mthunt
    Barrie CC L mthunt
    mthunt Range

  • #46
    Scores are automatic. If you aren’t showing up there’s a bug or it will. Please open a ticket with protee they’ll fix it.
    My Courses:
    World Par 3's by mthunt
    Toronto GC (L) mthunt
    Burlington G&CC by mthunt
    Weston G&CC by mthunt
    London Hunt Club L mthunt
    Park CC Lidar mthunt
    Sunningdale GC Robinson L
    Sunningdale GC Thompson L
    Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
    Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
    The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
    The National GC L mthunt
    Mississaugua GC L mthunt
    Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
    Markland Woods CC mthunt
    Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
    Magna GC L mthunt
    Barrie CC L mthunt
    mthunt Range

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    • calebm1001
      calebm1001 commented
      Editing a comment
      Might need to do that! I posted another comment in Q-School thread. I played round 1, then a couple days later I played the next round but it’s as if it restarted my entire event bc it put me back at round 1. I don’t have to play all three rounds in a row, do I?

      BTW - love what you do with you courses! Finding you’re name all over TGC.

    • mthunt
      mthunt commented
      Editing a comment
      Thanks. Sim golf is fun.

  • #47
    Hello,
    Is this TGC tour just for us sim golfers? I mean, we aren't competing against xbox and ps4 gamers against our full swing sims?
    If so, are there other groups/societies, in which we know we are actually just playing against other full swing simulators?
    Kind of a newbie question i know, but i guess i am a newbie here.
    thanks

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    • #48
      Originally posted by schrambow View Post
      Hello,
      Is this TGC tour just for us sim golfers? I mean, we aren't competing against xbox and ps4 gamers against our full swing sims?
      If so, are there other groups/societies, in which we know we are actually just playing against other full swing simulators?
      Kind of a newbie question i know, but i guess i am a newbie here.
      thanks
      It’s only people hitting real balls with golf clubs following the rules.
      My Courses:
      World Par 3's by mthunt
      Toronto GC (L) mthunt
      Burlington G&CC by mthunt
      Weston G&CC by mthunt
      London Hunt Club L mthunt
      Park CC Lidar mthunt
      Sunningdale GC Robinson L
      Sunningdale GC Thompson L
      Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
      Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
      The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
      The National GC L mthunt
      Mississaugua GC L mthunt
      Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
      Markland Woods CC mthunt
      Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
      Magna GC L mthunt
      Barrie CC L mthunt
      mthunt Range

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      • #49
        mthunt Hello all, I’m new to the forum and am looking to join the TGC tour with my R-Motion simulator. I understand I need to establish a handicap through Q school to be eligible for the net leaderboards. When I look at the upcoming Q school tourneys (see attached image) none are currently open. Does this mean I won’t be eligible to play in this weekends Sony open or other tournaments until another Q school event pops up? Are there any other ways to establish a handicap and participate?

        Thank you in advance for any replies. I’m looking forward to joining this amazing golf community!

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        • #50
          Originally posted by SCMCKENZ View Post
          mthunt Hello all, I’m new to the forum and am looking to join the TGC tour with my R-Motion simulator. I understand I need to establish a handicap through Q school to be eligible for the net leaderboards. When I look at the upcoming Q school tourneys (see attached image) none are currently open. Does this mean I won’t be eligible to play in this weekends Sony open or other tournaments until another Q school event pops up? Are there any other ways to establish a handicap and participate?

          Thank you in advance for any replies. I’m looking forward to joining this amazing golf community!
          You can still play but you won’t have a handicap until you play 5. You’ll be 0. Remember to set gimmies to gimmie.
          My Courses:
          World Par 3's by mthunt
          Toronto GC (L) mthunt
          Burlington G&CC by mthunt
          Weston G&CC by mthunt
          London Hunt Club L mthunt
          Park CC Lidar mthunt
          Sunningdale GC Robinson L
          Sunningdale GC Thompson L
          Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
          Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
          The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
          The National GC L mthunt
          Mississaugua GC L mthunt
          Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
          Markland Woods CC mthunt
          Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
          Magna GC L mthunt
          Barrie CC L mthunt
          mthunt Range

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          • SCMCKENZ
            SCMCKENZ commented
            Editing a comment
            Thanks for the quick reply!

        • #51
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ID:	267324 Hello I wanted to post about my recent experience.
          I recently purchased my simulator and joined the TGC Online community. I am reading through the different threads on this forum and came across the rules regarding rewinds.
          I have been having the same hardware error occur quite frequently and when it happens is the only time I ever rewind my shot. The error occurs only when hitting Driver or 3W and happens about 3-4 times per round. The system will read the shot with much lower ball speed even while swing speed remains the same and it will change launch angle, sometimes extremely high (30+) degree or sometimes extremely low (>6 degrees)

          My swing speeds and ball speeds are extremely consistent as I’ve played golf my entire life and play at scratch in open air. I just want to be pre-emptive to show what the error looks like so it’s not confused with me just rewinding shots on a whim.
          All of my tee shots with driver are consistently 150-160 Ball speeds and then I’ll randomly have ones that drop by 30 percent down to 110 or so, which is a massive difference, this combined with a randomized launch angle and an odd spin number and the total carry will go down from 250-270 to anywhere from 120-180.

          I read on the rules thread recently about a no tolerance when it comes to rewinds but please let me know if this scenario is an allowable rewind when you compare it to every other tee shot on my recorded history.

          I’ve reached out to rapsodo about this and they are in the process of deciding whether to send me another unit.

          I have attached an example of a shot in this message.

          Thanks.
          Last edited by Aschahar90; 05-04-2020, 06:42 PM.

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          • #52
            Originally posted by Aschahar90 View Post
            Click image for larger version

Name:	DACF61D4-B29E-47ED-8403-FAE3660F6C52.png
Views:	810
Size:	593.2 KB
ID:	267324 Hello I wanted to post about my recent experience.
            I recently purchased my simulator and joined the TGC Online community. I am reading through the different threads on this forum and came across the rules regarding rewinds.
            I have been having the same hardware error occur quite frequently and when it happens is the only time I ever rewind my shot. The error occurs only when hitting Driver or 3W and happens about 3-4 times per round. The system will read the shot with much lower ball speed even while swing speed remains the same and it will change launch angle, sometimes extremely high (30+) degree or sometimes extremely low (>6 degrees)

            My swing speeds and ball speeds are extremely consistent as I’ve played golf my entire life and play at scratch in open air. I just want to be pre-emptive to show what the error looks like so it’s not confused with me just rewinding shots on a whim.
            All of my tee shots with driver are consistently 150-160 Ball speeds and then I’ll randomly have ones that drop by 30 percent down to 110 or so, which is a massive difference, this combined with a randomized launch angle and an odd spin number and the total carry will go down from 250-270 to anywhere from 120-180.

            I read on the rules thread recently about a no tolerance when it comes to rewinds but please let me know if this scenario is an allowable rewind when you compare it to every other tee shot on my recorded history.

            I’ve reached out to rapsodo about this and they are in the process of deciding whether to send me another unit.

            I have attached an example of a shot in this message.

            Thanks.
            Rewinds are ok in that situation but rewinds are only enabled in TGC1 events. In TGC2019, they are disabled.
            My Courses:
            World Par 3's by mthunt
            Toronto GC (L) mthunt
            Burlington G&CC by mthunt
            Weston G&CC by mthunt
            London Hunt Club L mthunt
            Park CC Lidar mthunt
            Sunningdale GC Robinson L
            Sunningdale GC Thompson L
            Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
            Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
            The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
            The National GC L mthunt
            Mississaugua GC L mthunt
            Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
            Markland Woods CC mthunt
            Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
            Magna GC L mthunt
            Barrie CC L mthunt
            mthunt Range

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            • #53
              Originally posted by mthunt View Post

              You can still play but you won’t have a handicap until you play 5. You’ll be 0. Remember to set gimmies to gimmie.
              I just played my first two rounds today at ProTee Q-School and turned gimmies off. Was this not the right thing to do? I had at least one 5-putt!

              Prior to these two rounds, I had played 5 rounds at various courses within the game but I had gimmies on (2-putt outside 2m, and 1-putt inside 2m)

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              • mthunt
                mthunt commented
                Editing a comment
                The tour rule is setting gimmies to ‘gimmie’. The is 6 feet. You can go less or off but are not allowed to play on tour with ‘on green’ on.

            • #54
              Is there a specific list of LM's that are approved or will any system work? I'm just getting my sim setup finished (should be fine in about a week or two) and I'd like to Jon the your when I'm all set up and get my system dialed in.

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              • mthunt
                mthunt commented
                Editing a comment
                Flightscope Mevo+, GC2, Trackman 4, Uneekor, Skytrak, protee, GSA,

            • #55
              I don't see the ES Tour Plus in that list. Will I be ostracized and unable to compete?

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              • #56
                I'm new to all this, what are the settings for Green Stimp in skytrak? Are there standards, or can I set them to whatever I want?

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                • #57
                  Originally posted by Tim-Rex View Post
                  I'm new to all this, what are the settings for Green Stimp in skytrak? Are there standards, or can I set them to whatever I want?
                  You can set the Stimp and speed to whatever you want. The gimmie has to be set to Gimmie.
                  My Courses:
                  World Par 3's by mthunt
                  Toronto GC (L) mthunt
                  Burlington G&CC by mthunt
                  Weston G&CC by mthunt
                  London Hunt Club L mthunt
                  Park CC Lidar mthunt
                  Sunningdale GC Robinson L
                  Sunningdale GC Thompson L
                  Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
                  Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
                  The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
                  The National GC L mthunt
                  Mississaugua GC L mthunt
                  Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
                  Markland Woods CC mthunt
                  Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
                  Magna GC L mthunt
                  Barrie CC L mthunt
                  mthunt Range

                  Comment


                  • #58
                    You guys should really think about changing auto 2 putt when on green greater than 5ft. As it is, the only way ppl will be able to score is to have straight putting on anyway so even if you suck balls at putting you still won't be able to win anything with 2putt on green and 1 putt inside 6 ft.



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                    • 3on3putt
                      3on3putt commented
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                      You're doing it wrong in your settings. The only gimmie is inside 6 feet (auto 1-putt). Anything outside of 6 feet must be putted. Check your gimmie settings.

                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Golfnado View Post
                    You guys should really think about changing auto 2 putt when on green greater than 5ft. As it is, the only way ppl will be able to score is to have straight putting on anyway so even if you suck balls at putting you still won't be able to win anything with 2putt on green and 1 putt inside 6 ft.

                    ​​​​​
                    The rules for putting is to set to gimmie. Gimme means anything inside 6 feet is an auto 1 putt and anything outside of 6 feet you have to use your putter and putt. This isn’t going to change. The ProTee society will never be a tournament without putting.
                    My Courses:
                    World Par 3's by mthunt
                    Toronto GC (L) mthunt
                    Burlington G&CC by mthunt
                    Weston G&CC by mthunt
                    London Hunt Club L mthunt
                    Park CC Lidar mthunt
                    Sunningdale GC Robinson L
                    Sunningdale GC Thompson L
                    Muirfield Village (liDAR) First Ever Lidar course
                    Country Club of Castle Pines (liDAR)
                    The Sanctuary GC ProTee L
                    The National GC L mthunt
                    Mississaugua GC L mthunt
                    Shaughnessy G&CC L mthunt
                    Markland Woods CC mthunt
                    Hidden Lake Old L mthunt
                    Magna GC L mthunt
                    Barrie CC L mthunt
                    mthunt Range

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                    • #60
                      I'm not entirely sure about this, but on my SkyTrak version of TGC1, rewinds appear to be OFF for any tournament, is their still a need for SR if rewinds cannot be done? I only ask because I cannot for the life of me get SR to turn on. I've played 6-7 tournaments now in the 2021 Winter league, established a relatively low Tour hcp and have had absolutely no access to Rewinds. Thanks in advance.

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