Holy Grail Hitting Strip

[Caroo220]

I’ve seen it mentioned here in a few spots but I wanted to give my .02 on the insert from gunghogolf after getting it installed and putting through 100-200 swings.
First off, the team there at gung-ho does a great job; from answering initial questions prior to purchase (skytrak) and follow through on the back end. They also shipped ahead of schedule which was a nice surprise.
My original mat had a longer ply height resulting in lower than expected numbers when I first starting using the ST. At first I questioned the unit but was able to run it side by side with trackman to verify. This also gave me a chance to hit off a fiberbuilt insert. Launch numbers were comparable to irl but as a digger I couldn’t quite warm up to the feeling. ST and TM launch speeds and angles were nearly identical throughout the session so I was able to single out the mat as most likely culprit.
I decided to give the Holy Grail Strip a try and so far I’m very pleased. Install was pretty straight forward, I haven’t stuck it down yet so I can’t speak on the adhesive.
Ball/club interaction is good and so far seems to give very accurate results compared to the feeling of the swing whether fat/thin/push/pull.

Anybody else give it a try yet?

[968Cab]

Also, I like the Tomahawk tees over the Birtees, JMO. Same trick with the claw and tether.

[ryanbang2]

I ordered the 46" yesterday and look forward to checking it out.

[GungHoGolf]

Thank you!!

[Enzo]

I’ve been using the Holy Grail Strip for a few rounds and some practice and all I can say is WOW! I made a cutout on my Quattro mat which was a little too small(my bad) and had to shimmy the heck out of it so the strip would fit correctly. Once I had everything setup right, it felt unbelievable compared to other mats I have used. No more pain in my wrists or arms, feels more realistic to hitting off of regular turf. I’m getting much better backspin on my short irons also. Right now I’m using tomahawk tees until I setup a sliding rail for my SkyTrak to hit tee shots off of the rubber tee that is at the perfect height for my driver. When I use the tomahawk on the strip my launch angle is too high. Hope this helps anyone interested in this.

[GungHoGolf]

Thanks for your feedback, glad you like it!

[xfactor989]

How is the height difference between Quattro and holy grail?

what other mats have you tried?

[Enzo]

I would say it’s very close to the same height, see pics. Not sure what brand the other mats were since they were given to me from a golf instructor. Hope this helps

[pwade3]

GungHoGolf any thoughts of shipping to Canada in the future of Gunghogolf. I would certainly like to get my hands on one.

[GungHoGolf]

We've had pretty bad luck shipping internationally, but if you email us (hello at our domain) and tell us the shipper you'd like to use, we can give it another try. Mention in your email that Ron said that we'd make an exception for you.

[GungHoGolf]

I've added a couple pics of the Holy Grail strip in a Fiberbuilt 7x4 Studio mat to the product description at https://store.gunghogolf.com/Holy-Gr...6-5-p376891850. Here they are also:

[GungHoGolf]

Brettster - yes, the HG strip uses 100% nylon Money Putt turf by Grass-Tex. Can't imagine it being a problem with a launch monitor - both SkyTrak and GC Quad use infrared flash as well, and we use them on it all the time. The alternative is polypropylene turf, but that's the stuff that burns/rubs the green onto your irons. You can buy the 3' Fiberbuilt strip at https://fiberbuiltgolf.com/products/...-holes-12-x-35.

[Brettster]

Thanks GungHoGolf - I'm not sure, but that's what I heard direct from ProTee, stay away from 100% nylon turf, too much reflection of infrared lights? It's not a flash with ProTee but a continuous Infrared flood light, maybe that has something to do with it?

Regarding the Fiberbuilt strip, yep, that's nice, so that would be easy to cut into your HG? Also, your quick take on 3 way hitting strips? I'm hoping to try hitting from one (Rough, Fairway, First Cut), just to see what the penalty is with the R10... I may pick one up as part of net deal, but wondered if you have any available that you know are good/durable?

[GungHoGolf]

Brettster If you're buying our HG mat, I'd recommend sticking with the HG strip. Of course you could cut in any alternate strip you want, but heights may not match perfectly. The Fiberbuilt strip is terrible to putt off of, if that's important to you.

Not a fan of 3-way hitting strips.

[Cap]

I have a Quattro and it has caused continuous pain in my hands since I go it four months ago. After reading this thread, I ordered the 46.5" holy grail to cut into my Quattro. Ready for the pain to end.

Also, I placed my order at 4:13 pm yesterday. It was delivered at 2:34 pm today. Remarkable!

[Indyfish]

Wow that was quick. I ordered mine back in June and just got it last weekend.

[GungHoGolf]

Indyfish - Very sorry for the delay on yours. Our production line had not yet ramped up in June, but now we're fully operational and have stock on hand. -Ron

[Deuce]

The Fiberbuilt retro-fit looks pretty good. Wish there was one sized to fit a True Strike mat.

[GungHoGolf]

What is the exact cutout size (LxWxD) of the True Strike mat? We may consider it.

[968Cab]

Had the chance to spend some quality time with my new Holy Grail yesterday. Feedback/input/thoughts…

First, GungHo service was impeccable.

I didn’t see the “long” strip on the site, so called. No answer (from out of the country, as I was on a work trip). No sooner had I hung up from voicemail, they called me back. I was looking in the wrong spot. Missed the shipping deadline for the day by a few minutes, but was told if I ordered in the next few minutes, he could probably get it out in time. Hung up and ordered on line. Shipping email showed up 10 minutes later.

I happen to live 2-3 hours north of GungHo, so the thing showed up the next day, before I was even home from my trip! 👍🏼

The mat is pretty much what I expected, as a Divot Action user. It’s supported by foam strips for the entire length vs. the metal tension clips DA uses. The rubber padding in the photos was my attempt to quiet the DA clips from striking the underside every shot—the source of my biggest DA complaint…very loud in my small sim room. With the foam, the HolyGrail is about as quiet as I think I can get things.

Turf seems quality, color is off from the DA, and doesn’t match the FB stance mat exactly, but close enough. It matches my landing area, and anything that’s not neon works for me, TBH.

The height is very slightly off. Might be a foam sizing issue, a tray issue (Fiberbuilt seems to have about 10 different models, all different, and mine is 2+ years old). It not enough to need build up, but not an “exact match” either. As shown, it’s about a groove low, probably not a big deal at all, unless the foam sags with age.

With Uneekor, only an ~18” section is detectable, so the 46” strip is overkill. You can see how my DA was offset forward of center. That has as much to do with my room as the mat…I can’t move the tray and still clear the back wall. I plan to use it as is then rotate it 180°. I will use the extreme front or back for wedge warm up swings with no detection.

I’ve resigned to the Tomahawk tees as a sim user, but if I get a wild hair, I might drill a hole for a rubber tee holder in the DA as an experiment. Again, I have about a +/-2” fore/aft window that allows me to swing driver, so I could use the fixed tee location and real tees (my favorite part of the original FB strip)

The HG plays very true to real life, in my opinion. Probably due to the length of the flexible portion, I think it’s superior to the DA. Very similar turf, so expect they will wear about the same, and I am concerned about the foam sagging long term. BUT, with DA, you need to re-bend the clips once in a while and tear the entire thing apart to change them…I’m betting I could swap out the foam with waaaay less hassle on the HG.

Glad I bought it. IMO, and for my set up, the subtle but definite differences vs DA are pluses. The “minuses” are truly of the nit-pick variety. If starting fresh, Holy Grail gets my recc.

Well done Ron and GungHo!

[968Cab]

My pleasure Ron. And again, great job by you and your boys in Austin.

I've got some black tee holders from Finger Ten already, so, I'll mess around with the drill this fall/winter...although that air-conditioned sim room seems like a better choice than the course lately LOL

[jdang307]

Juts gave me an idea. I tend to hit thin. Practicing on a hitting surface just slightly lower might help me.

[968Cab]

Or make it worse! 😂

[SkeetShooter]

I had my first experience with the Gung Ho Golf Holy Grail hitting strip last night. So from a 12 HCP perspective, I was hitting some flush shots, a bunch of fat's and a few thins... Here are my observations vs my Fiberbuilt.

1. Forgiving to your joints when you fat one, maybe not as much as the Fiberbuilt, but Its tough to say. I had a pretty bad night of swinging last night and I can't truly attribute that to me fatting the shot more often than not...
2. More true to real life punishment for fatted shots. I normally carry my 6i around 185-190 and on my fatted shots it was coming up at around 160ish. Thats almost exactly what I've seen on course. Additionally shot direction for most my fatted shots tends to be a fade/slice. I saw that more often than not with the Holy Grail strip. The Fiberbuilt has a tendency to let you get away with fat shots a bit more and I think the bristle design somehow (no idea how) straightens your ball path out.

I like that its more realistic in terms of punishment. I always felt like Fiberbuilt was great but let me get away with some pretty aweful shots in the sim.

What I really like. Its probably 1/10th the weight of the fiberbuilt hitting strip. I have my sim in my wife's bay of the garage, so I need to put my fiberbuilt mat away each time to park her car in there. It's much easier moving it now, and it also seems like the transfer of energy doesnt move the stance mat as much any more so it stays in position.

Added bonus is putting on this strip is night and day vs the Fiberbuilt. Ball rolls true and I feel much more secure putting in the simulator on this.

All in all, an excellent alternative to Fiberbuilt. I highly recommend it for the price, and I am looking forward to implementing this in another setup for a friend as well. Well done Ron!!! GungHoGolf

[jdang307]

I'm thinking the FB straightens out the shot a little because of reduced spin. Do you have any spin numbers FB vs HG? As I understand it, normal mats will produce less spin, but higher launch angle. That's an issue for me because I am a lower ball hitter, and mats always inflate my launch angle.

[GungHoGolf]

Spin is a result of speed and spin loft (dynamic loft minus angle of attack). Both Fiberbuilt and Holy Grail hitting surfaces allow you to freely hit down and through the ball like you can on a soft fairway, so if you make ball-first contact, spin and launch angles should be similar. The problem with many other types of mats is you cannot really hit down through the ball - not without eventual pain anyway - so you start picking the ball clean, shallowing out your angle of attack.

[SkeetShooter]

jdang307 I can say for sure I am getting higher spin off my irons on the HG, BUT its not a massive amount. As GungHoGolf said its really all about club delivery. I just feel like with HG, i'm getting spin numbers that are more representative of my on course play. I'm a big fan of the product as it sits. I really have no complaints of it at all.

[evild0er]

What's the height of the Holy Grail strip?

Want to make a cut out on my stance mat which is about 1" high (3/4" pile height) and need to figure out how much that needs to be raised to make everything flush.

[GungHoGolf]

The Holy Grail strip is 1.5" total height, from bottom velcro to top of turf. It's designed to be inset into a floor with a 1" sublayer and 3/3-1/2" turf on top.

[schwame]

I bought a Holy Grail 12" x 35" hitting strip. My old setup used a Divot Action 12 x 18 hitting strip.

I've been using the Holy Grail now for about 4-6 weeks. Here are my impressions:

1) From an impact / injury perspective it is very similar to the Divot Action, with one exception. As a high handicapper, on the DA, an errant swing with poor balance resulted in slamming the club into the back / bottom of the DA. The bottom of the DA is fiberglass. Hitting fiberglass head on with an iron both hurts from a skelatal-muscular perspective, but also cracked the fiberglass. It happened enough where the whole back was destroyed, so I flipped the DA 180 degrees and got a few more months out of it until that side of the fiberglass broke. The Holy Grail does not have that problem at all and the extra 17" of length have really made a big difference for comfort.
2) The accuracy of the shots seems very good. Much as SkeetShooter mentions above. Putting has been realistic also
3) The product is very durable as I've been hitting for about an hour a night for over a month... no problems, it still looks and feels exactly as it did on the day i received it
4) The only minor problem i've had with it (and this is probably unique to my setup) is that my Holy Grail rests on top of cork. The velcro does not stick well to the cork. I had to buy some new velcro and have been working on ways to get it to stick better. Yesterday I used contact glue under the velcro strip to get it to stick better. So far so good.
5) The buying process and working with Ron (@GungHoGolf) cannot be beat. Ron is honest and very knowledgeable about all things simulators!

Great Job Ron (@gunghogolf)

[GungHoGolf]

I bought a Holy Grail 12" x 35" hitting strip. My old setup used a Divot Action 12 x 18 hitting strip.

I've been using the Holy Grail now for about 4-6 weeks. Here are my impressions:

1) From an impact / injury perspective it is very similar to the Divot Action, with one exception. As a high handicapper, on the DA, an errant swing with poor balance resulted in slamming the club into the back / bottom of the DA. The bottom of the DA is fiberglass. Hitting fiberglass head on with an iron both hurts from a skelatal-muscular perspective, but also cracked the fiberglass. It happened enough where the whole back was destroyed, so I flipped the DA 180 degrees and got a few more months out of it until that side of the fiberglass broke. The Holy Grail does not have that problem at all and the extra 17" of length have really made a big difference for comfort.
2) The accuracy of the shots seems very good. Much as SkeetShooter mentions above. Putting has been realistic also
3) The product is very durable as I've been hitting for about an hour a night for over a month... no problems, it still looks and feels exactly as it did on the day i received it
4) The only minor problem i've had with it (and this is probably unique to my setup) is that my Holy Grail rests on top of cork. The velcro does not stick well to the cork. I had to buy some new velcro and have been working on ways to get it to stick better. Yesterday I used contact glue under the velcro strip to get it to stick better. So far so good.
5) The buying process and working with Ron (@GungHoGolf) cannot be beat. Ron is honest and very knowledgeable about all things simulators!

Great Job Ron (@gunghogolf)

Thanks so much for your review! Glad you're liking the Holy Grail strip!

[johnnybogey]

Anyone having issues with top surface peeling? It’s causing bubbles on the surface in some areas. I’ve had for a month only and already having this problem.

[GungHoGolf]

Email pics and your order number to us at hello@gunghogolf.com - we unconditionally cover any problems like that for 12 months. We had a small number go out that apparently got thin glue coverage under the turf at the factory.